1 00:00:00,060 --> 00:00:03,249 the Heat 2 00:00:08,390 --> 00:00:05,630 hello everyone welcome to my podcast 3 00:00:11,030 --> 00:00:08,400 dimensions of reality I'm your host and 4 00:00:12,709 --> 00:00:11,040 my name is Marquis today we're going to 5 00:00:15,950 --> 00:00:12,719 be talking with my good friends from UAP 6 00:00:17,510 --> 00:00:15,960 studies podcast Louis and Jason 7 00:00:20,090 --> 00:00:17,520 um on this episode today we're going to 8 00:00:22,070 --> 00:00:20,100 talk about the UAP report the 2022 one 9 00:00:24,769 --> 00:00:22,080 the new one um the seat of disclosure 10 00:00:28,429 --> 00:00:24,779 some very intriguing comments by some 11 00:00:30,349 --> 00:00:28,439 very reputable people Enigma labs and a 12 00:00:32,389 --> 00:00:30,359 lot more but first I really want to 13 00:00:34,069 --> 00:00:32,399 introduce my guests my friends so 14 00:00:35,870 --> 00:00:34,079 welcome gentlemen 15 00:00:37,850 --> 00:00:35,880 thanks for having us to be here yeah 16 00:00:39,889 --> 00:00:37,860 this is awesome 17 00:00:41,389 --> 00:00:39,899 awesome thank you I'm glad you guys were 18 00:00:42,950 --> 00:00:41,399 able to do this on such short notice it 19 00:00:44,569 --> 00:00:42,960 was kind of like a a spur of the moment 20 00:00:46,010 --> 00:00:44,579 thing you guys said yeah let's do it and 21 00:00:49,069 --> 00:00:46,020 I was like well let's do it and we're 22 00:00:51,790 --> 00:00:49,079 doing it so let's do it so what do you 23 00:00:53,690 --> 00:00:51,800 guys sign up and we answered the call 24 00:00:54,650 --> 00:00:53,700 and I really appreciate it because it's 25 00:00:56,029 --> 00:00:54,660 gonna be a great it's gonna be a great 26 00:00:57,650 --> 00:00:56,039 episode we have a lot a lot of fun every 27 00:00:58,970 --> 00:00:57,660 time I've talked to you guys I know 28 00:01:01,610 --> 00:00:58,980 people are gonna love this conversation 29 00:01:04,009 --> 00:01:01,620 so Louis Jason if you could introduce 30 00:01:06,410 --> 00:01:04,019 yourselves please do so at this time 31 00:01:07,789 --> 00:01:06,420 yeah I'm uh 32 00:01:10,750 --> 00:01:07,799 all right you want to go do you want to 33 00:01:13,609 --> 00:01:10,760 go Jay me for scissors 34 00:01:16,070 --> 00:01:13,619 my name is Louis Borges I'm uh I'm one 35 00:01:19,130 --> 00:01:16,080 of the co-hosts of UAP studies podcast I 36 00:01:22,490 --> 00:01:19,140 joined in uh January of 2022 so uh just 37 00:01:24,050 --> 00:01:22,500 over a year now and I get to do you know 38 00:01:25,789 --> 00:01:24,060 cool thing every Sunday with my best 39 00:01:27,830 --> 00:01:25,799 buddy and talk about my favorite subject 40 00:01:29,929 --> 00:01:27,840 so for me anytime somebody says hey you 41 00:01:33,230 --> 00:01:29,939 want to chat about aliens at 11 30 at 42 00:01:34,190 --> 00:01:33,240 night yeah tell me which day so here we 43 00:01:37,010 --> 00:01:34,200 are 44 00:01:41,450 --> 00:01:37,020 I'm Jason gilmet uh I am the other 45 00:01:43,310 --> 00:01:41,460 co-host of UAP studies podcast of course 46 00:01:45,469 --> 00:01:43,320 um yeah this interest for me has always 47 00:01:47,810 --> 00:01:45,479 been a lifelong thing 48 00:01:49,130 --> 00:01:47,820 um I joined mufon a couple years ago not 49 00:01:51,590 --> 00:01:49,140 that I've done anything with the 50 00:01:54,109 --> 00:01:51,600 organization as of late I'm probably one 51 00:01:56,690 --> 00:01:54,119 of the worst ones for replying to cases 52 00:01:59,389 --> 00:01:56,700 right now uh but I've always had an 53 00:02:01,730 --> 00:01:59,399 interest in uh uaps and the phenomenon 54 00:02:04,429 --> 00:02:01,740 uh absolutely the abduction phenomenon 55 00:02:07,069 --> 00:02:04,439 is what I want to specialize in or what 56 00:02:09,770 --> 00:02:07,079 I would like to explore more 57 00:02:12,650 --> 00:02:09,780 but uh yeah this is a passion of mine 58 00:02:14,630 --> 00:02:12,660 and uh getting to work with Louie and 59 00:02:17,150 --> 00:02:14,640 have him come on and it just totally 60 00:02:20,390 --> 00:02:17,160 change the podcast and we just grew so 61 00:02:23,210 --> 00:02:20,400 much uh in the last year and uh yeah 62 00:02:25,010 --> 00:02:23,220 we're having a ball we're having a blast 63 00:02:27,170 --> 00:02:25,020 yeah you guys have some really big 64 00:02:29,390 --> 00:02:27,180 guests I've I've when I first found out 65 00:02:30,830 --> 00:02:29,400 about you uh we talked on Facebook back 66 00:02:32,449 --> 00:02:30,840 and forth and then I went to your 67 00:02:34,610 --> 00:02:32,459 channels and I was like wow you talked 68 00:02:36,650 --> 00:02:34,620 to Jacques valet you talk to every first 69 00:02:39,170 --> 00:02:36,660 of all you talk to everybody literally 70 00:02:40,670 --> 00:02:39,180 everyone in the UFO Community you have 71 00:02:42,830 --> 00:02:40,680 talked to them all the big figures in 72 00:02:44,150 --> 00:02:42,840 the researchers and and you've got some 73 00:02:46,309 --> 00:02:44,160 new ones coming up which we're going to 74 00:02:48,229 --> 00:02:46,319 talk about that later in the episode but 75 00:02:49,670 --> 00:02:48,239 for the time being actually I wanted to 76 00:02:52,130 --> 00:02:49,680 ask you a question about that so you're 77 00:02:53,869 --> 00:02:52,140 you're focusing Jason on the experience 78 00:02:55,070 --> 00:02:53,879 or phenomena that's a that's 79 00:02:57,290 --> 00:02:55,080 particularly of interest to me because 80 00:02:59,330 --> 00:02:57,300 of my experience I am in I guess you can 81 00:03:01,729 --> 00:02:59,340 call me an experiencer 82 00:03:04,630 --> 00:03:01,739 um and so that to me is a really big 83 00:03:07,369 --> 00:03:04,640 topic a really important one yeah 84 00:03:09,050 --> 00:03:07,379 it goes hand in hand with what's 85 00:03:12,410 --> 00:03:09,060 happening I mean if you look at the 86 00:03:14,509 --> 00:03:12,420 documentation that the UAP task force 87 00:03:16,550 --> 00:03:14,519 submitted and we just read and it was 88 00:03:19,910 --> 00:03:16,560 really disappointing they say that they 89 00:03:21,649 --> 00:03:19,920 investigate everything from Air space 90 00:03:22,850 --> 00:03:21,659 it's funny that they put space next 91 00:03:24,410 --> 00:03:22,860 right they don't want to put that first 92 00:03:26,630 --> 00:03:24,420 because I'm might give some you know 93 00:03:29,449 --> 00:03:26,640 implications of what it might be and 94 00:03:31,670 --> 00:03:29,459 then water but nobody's investigating 95 00:03:33,350 --> 00:03:31,680 when these things Land close to the 96 00:03:36,050 --> 00:03:33,360 ground and when people have interactions 97 00:03:38,089 --> 00:03:36,060 with the occupants of these crafts or 98 00:03:40,850 --> 00:03:38,099 claim to be taken by the occupants of 99 00:03:43,009 --> 00:03:40,860 these crafts we've talked to people that 100 00:03:44,930 --> 00:03:43,019 were part of the church 101 00:03:46,789 --> 00:03:44,940 they're experiencing these things the 102 00:03:48,530 --> 00:03:46,799 same as everybody else people in the 103 00:03:50,930 --> 00:03:48,540 defense department for crying out loud 104 00:03:53,930 --> 00:03:50,940 are experiencing this people in the 105 00:03:55,670 --> 00:03:53,940 military so it's it's a global issue 106 00:03:58,970 --> 00:03:55,680 it's not just taking place in the United 107 00:04:01,610 --> 00:03:58,980 States and Canada it's everywhere and 108 00:04:03,770 --> 00:04:01,620 it's amazing the amount of of humans 109 00:04:05,750 --> 00:04:03,780 that are possibly being taken I think 110 00:04:07,610 --> 00:04:05,760 that uh 111 00:04:09,110 --> 00:04:07,620 who was it that we were talking to that 112 00:04:10,850 --> 00:04:09,120 said it's probably about something like 113 00:04:13,550 --> 00:04:10,860 one percent of the population or 114 00:04:15,890 --> 00:04:13,560 abductees or contactees of some sort one 115 00:04:18,710 --> 00:04:15,900 percent of the population people it's 116 00:04:20,810 --> 00:04:18,720 it's crazy right I mean it's a crazy 117 00:04:22,550 --> 00:04:20,820 amount of people so yeah that's been a 118 00:04:26,210 --> 00:04:22,560 subject that I've always been fascinated 119 00:04:28,850 --> 00:04:26,220 by Bud Hopkins and John Mack had a huge 120 00:04:30,590 --> 00:04:28,860 influence on on me for that for sure but 121 00:04:31,969 --> 00:04:30,600 yeah I've always just been driven to 122 00:04:35,210 --> 00:04:31,979 those stories not that I've been an 123 00:04:36,890 --> 00:04:35,220 abductee myself I'm just drawn to uh 124 00:04:39,290 --> 00:04:36,900 want to hear more about you know the 125 00:04:41,330 --> 00:04:39,300 contact he's in their experience 126 00:04:42,890 --> 00:04:41,340 I I would think you know the the fact 127 00:04:45,230 --> 00:04:42,900 that they haven't focused on I mean well 128 00:04:46,370 --> 00:04:45,240 Gary Nolan said that he was contacted by 129 00:04:47,870 --> 00:04:46,380 the government 130 00:04:49,129 --> 00:04:47,880 um to investigate the experience or 131 00:04:51,290 --> 00:04:49,139 phenomena at least from a military 132 00:04:53,450 --> 00:04:51,300 perspective finding out what what the 133 00:04:55,490 --> 00:04:53,460 medical effects are with contact with 134 00:04:56,870 --> 00:04:55,500 these craft I think that's very notable 135 00:04:57,950 --> 00:04:56,880 it's very interesting and again we'll 136 00:05:00,110 --> 00:04:57,960 talk about that throughout the episode 137 00:05:01,550 --> 00:05:00,120 here today but I don't understand why 138 00:05:04,070 --> 00:05:01,560 they didn't focus on that in the report 139 00:05:06,530 --> 00:05:04,080 the first report was great the first 140 00:05:08,990 --> 00:05:06,540 report I was like wow they mentioned 141 00:05:11,390 --> 00:05:09,000 non-human intelligences they mentioned 142 00:05:13,610 --> 00:05:11,400 unexpected pregnancies they mentioned 143 00:05:14,749 --> 00:05:13,620 health effects they mentioned all kinds 144 00:05:16,249 --> 00:05:14,759 of things that they completely it's 145 00:05:17,990 --> 00:05:16,259 almost like they reversed they kind of 146 00:05:19,310 --> 00:05:18,000 took it back a little bit like we told 147 00:05:20,810 --> 00:05:19,320 them a little bit too much let's bring 148 00:05:21,950 --> 00:05:20,820 it back a little bit and they brought it 149 00:05:23,689 --> 00:05:21,960 back a little bit with this new report 150 00:05:25,670 --> 00:05:23,699 because they didn't mention they 151 00:05:28,189 --> 00:05:25,680 actually said there are no health 152 00:05:30,290 --> 00:05:28,199 effects associated with the with contact 153 00:05:31,850 --> 00:05:30,300 with these crafts now that's complete 154 00:05:33,529 --> 00:05:31,860 it's in complete contrast to the first 155 00:05:36,350 --> 00:05:33,539 report you literally contradict yourself 156 00:05:37,749 --> 00:05:36,360 within one year yeah so what do you guys 157 00:05:40,790 --> 00:05:37,759 think about that 158 00:05:43,490 --> 00:05:40,800 Louie go first well I would say you know 159 00:05:45,710 --> 00:05:43,500 anytime that it's again it's just like 160 00:05:47,570 --> 00:05:45,720 we found a flying saucer no no it's a 161 00:05:48,770 --> 00:05:47,580 weather balloon so you know having them 162 00:05:51,409 --> 00:05:48,780 give a little and take a little back 163 00:05:53,990 --> 00:05:51,419 again if they had to make a statement 164 00:05:55,490 --> 00:05:54,000 like there are no health effects you 165 00:05:58,310 --> 00:05:55,500 could have done it would have taken like 166 00:06:00,770 --> 00:05:58,320 three pages in an official report to say 167 00:06:02,810 --> 00:06:00,780 based on the last report we made these 168 00:06:04,670 --> 00:06:02,820 you know notes we're gonna do this we're 169 00:06:06,170 --> 00:06:04,680 going to look at it this way here's how 170 00:06:07,850 --> 00:06:06,180 we looked at it here's the people we 171 00:06:10,129 --> 00:06:07,860 talked to and here's the final 172 00:06:12,050 --> 00:06:10,139 conclusion we didn't find any evidence 173 00:06:14,749 --> 00:06:12,060 of that you can't make a one-line 174 00:06:16,909 --> 00:06:14,759 statement in any type of official 175 00:06:19,249 --> 00:06:16,919 government document these things are 176 00:06:21,230 --> 00:06:19,259 phone books thick and there is no 177 00:06:23,090 --> 00:06:21,240 one-line answers so I thought it was odd 178 00:06:24,409 --> 00:06:23,100 that they just tossed that in there I 179 00:06:26,689 --> 00:06:24,419 also thought it was odd that there was a 180 00:06:29,390 --> 00:06:26,699 delay there was a delay to get no 181 00:06:31,610 --> 00:06:29,400 information I could see if it was so 182 00:06:33,469 --> 00:06:31,620 crammed full you'd say yeah it makes 183 00:06:35,749 --> 00:06:33,479 sense I mean it was four months late but 184 00:06:37,129 --> 00:06:35,759 they were still tying up all these Loose 185 00:06:39,110 --> 00:06:37,139 Ends look how much stuff they have in 186 00:06:41,570 --> 00:06:39,120 there all they basically said is we're 187 00:06:43,790 --> 00:06:41,580 going to talk to these departments and 188 00:06:46,189 --> 00:06:43,800 this is the mode of collection of 189 00:06:47,749 --> 00:06:46,199 information that's a standardized policy 190 00:06:50,270 --> 00:06:47,759 that they have in just about every 191 00:06:51,830 --> 00:06:50,280 Department in the Pentagon and you know 192 00:06:53,749 --> 00:06:51,840 the ministry defense and all that stuff 193 00:06:55,550 --> 00:06:53,759 around the world like there's a certain 194 00:06:57,230 --> 00:06:55,560 way governments look into something they 195 00:06:59,210 --> 00:06:57,240 have a committee they talk about it 196 00:07:01,010 --> 00:06:59,220 what's going to be our objective how are 197 00:07:02,809 --> 00:07:01,020 we going to do it who's involved and 198 00:07:04,550 --> 00:07:02,819 here's our forecast it's all very 199 00:07:06,890 --> 00:07:04,560 regimented with everything that they 200 00:07:10,070 --> 00:07:06,900 study so all they basically gave us is 201 00:07:12,050 --> 00:07:10,080 the method of collecting evidence for a 202 00:07:14,090 --> 00:07:12,060 government-based study why was it four 203 00:07:16,129 --> 00:07:14,100 months late and why does it have no 204 00:07:18,290 --> 00:07:16,139 information right it's just very bizarre 205 00:07:20,029 --> 00:07:18,300 and it's ridiculous I said this when I 206 00:07:23,210 --> 00:07:20,039 was on Dave Scott's show I said you know 207 00:07:25,070 --> 00:07:23,220 if this was loaded with information it 208 00:07:27,230 --> 00:07:25,080 would be saying something the fact that 209 00:07:29,930 --> 00:07:27,240 it's not loaded with information also 210 00:07:32,150 --> 00:07:29,940 says something right so I agree 211 00:07:33,830 --> 00:07:32,160 and I would say that the lack of 212 00:07:35,210 --> 00:07:33,840 information especially when it comes 213 00:07:37,909 --> 00:07:35,220 down to you know that the physical 214 00:07:39,529 --> 00:07:37,919 effects of these crafts when you look at 215 00:07:42,770 --> 00:07:39,539 this study that the Department of 216 00:07:45,170 --> 00:07:42,780 Defense did uh what was it um ASAP or 217 00:07:47,809 --> 00:07:45,180 the windows Bigelow right uh when 218 00:07:51,290 --> 00:07:47,819 Bigelow was the age of yeah awesome 219 00:07:53,270 --> 00:07:51,300 before eight all seven okay yeah so when 220 00:07:55,670 --> 00:07:53,280 you look at that report especially when 221 00:07:59,689 --> 00:07:55,680 you read the Skinwalker Ranch a book by 222 00:08:01,370 --> 00:07:59,699 uh George napkins yeah yeah skinwalker's 223 00:08:04,490 --> 00:08:01,380 a band I got the book right over here 224 00:08:07,790 --> 00:08:04,500 actually wow this guy yeah when you read 225 00:08:09,469 --> 00:08:07,800 it um or you know get into it it talks 226 00:08:12,770 --> 00:08:09,479 about the physical effects that some 227 00:08:14,650 --> 00:08:12,780 people have had with these you know orbs 228 00:08:17,570 --> 00:08:14,660 um one guy had his three dogs 229 00:08:18,469 --> 00:08:17,580 incinerated uh you know like it's just 230 00:08:20,330 --> 00:08:18,479 they're saying there's no physical 231 00:08:22,490 --> 00:08:20,340 effects well I beg to differ plus 232 00:08:25,490 --> 00:08:22,500 there's a bunch of orbs that cause some 233 00:08:28,070 --> 00:08:25,500 uh diseases in people and Louis knows 234 00:08:29,629 --> 00:08:28,080 them uh what is it the Japanese rare 235 00:08:30,610 --> 00:08:29,639 autoimmune disease and Hashimoto's 236 00:08:33,170 --> 00:08:30,620 disease 237 00:08:35,630 --> 00:08:33,180 just just things that are very obscure 238 00:08:37,730 --> 00:08:35,640 and very rare you know a small tiny 239 00:08:40,909 --> 00:08:37,740 percentage of people ever get it so to 240 00:08:42,949 --> 00:08:40,919 have even two people that have it and 241 00:08:45,170 --> 00:08:42,959 within the same contact that would be 242 00:08:46,730 --> 00:08:45,180 crazy coincidental right and actually I 243 00:08:48,829 --> 00:08:46,740 want to grab the book because there's 244 00:08:51,050 --> 00:08:48,839 something on the back of it and when we 245 00:08:52,850 --> 00:08:51,060 interviewed uh George Knapp and Colin 246 00:08:55,430 --> 00:08:52,860 Kelleher I asked him so I'm just gonna 247 00:08:58,370 --> 00:08:55,440 grab this because I think it's important 248 00:09:00,650 --> 00:08:58,380 yeah see this is the it is interesting 249 00:09:02,210 --> 00:09:00,660 how they again they they retracted or 250 00:09:04,250 --> 00:09:02,220 contradicted so to speak their previous 251 00:09:05,389 --> 00:09:04,260 report and now here Louie's going to 252 00:09:07,070 --> 00:09:05,399 bring up the you guys are bringing up 253 00:09:08,930 --> 00:09:07,080 the effects which they didn't they left 254 00:09:10,550 --> 00:09:08,940 out of this one yeah so this is the book 255 00:09:12,530 --> 00:09:10,560 here we do recommend it skinwalkers at 256 00:09:14,449 --> 00:09:12,540 the Pentagon uh it's with uh James 257 00:09:17,269 --> 00:09:14,459 lacaski Colin Kelleher and George Knapp 258 00:09:19,970 --> 00:09:17,279 on the back though and I hope I can get 259 00:09:21,290 --> 00:09:19,980 it clear there's a little blurb and it 260 00:09:22,910 --> 00:09:21,300 says Skin Walkers at the Pentagon has 261 00:09:25,130 --> 00:09:22,920 been reviewed by the US Department of 262 00:09:28,370 --> 00:09:25,140 Defense and cleared for public release 263 00:09:31,370 --> 00:09:28,380 wow so everything in here the you know 264 00:09:33,590 --> 00:09:31,380 the blue orbs the Cryptids the bigfoots 265 00:09:35,449 --> 00:09:33,600 The Hitchhiker effect everything to do 266 00:09:37,910 --> 00:09:35,459 with skin walker Ranch the whole story 267 00:09:40,310 --> 00:09:37,920 of nids and Bigelow the the US 268 00:09:43,250 --> 00:09:40,320 Department of Defense had to go through 269 00:09:44,690 --> 00:09:43,260 it and say it's okay so they know the 270 00:09:46,310 --> 00:09:44,700 information for one because they're 271 00:09:48,470 --> 00:09:46,320 screening people's books that have it 272 00:09:50,150 --> 00:09:48,480 right and number two when we spoke to 273 00:09:51,889 --> 00:09:50,160 George Knapp and call him Kelleher about 274 00:09:53,750 --> 00:09:51,899 it they said that there was way more 275 00:09:55,009 --> 00:09:53,760 stuff they wanted to put in here that 276 00:09:57,290 --> 00:09:55,019 they simply couldn't the government 277 00:09:59,690 --> 00:09:57,300 scrub didn't said we're not going there 278 00:10:01,310 --> 00:09:59,700 you don't talk about that so this is 279 00:10:03,530 --> 00:10:01,320 already a watered-down version of the 280 00:10:05,509 --> 00:10:03,540 truth and they have they have their 281 00:10:08,210 --> 00:10:05,519 stamp on the back I mean I could write a 282 00:10:09,350 --> 00:10:08,220 book about my opinion on Roswell I don't 283 00:10:11,449 --> 00:10:09,360 have to get clearance from the 284 00:10:12,710 --> 00:10:11,459 government to do that why did this book 285 00:10:14,090 --> 00:10:12,720 need to be sanctioned from the 286 00:10:16,490 --> 00:10:14,100 government before it was published 287 00:10:18,410 --> 00:10:16,500 because those guys get information from 288 00:10:20,570 --> 00:10:18,420 people in the government and to keep 289 00:10:22,970 --> 00:10:20,580 that relationship clean same thing with 290 00:10:25,430 --> 00:10:22,980 Travis Taylor everybody whatever your 291 00:10:26,570 --> 00:10:25,440 opinion is of him all he said was yeah 292 00:10:29,210 --> 00:10:26,580 I've been working with the military 293 00:10:31,310 --> 00:10:29,220 complex for years in fact one of his 294 00:10:33,170 --> 00:10:31,320 inventions is on the space station so 295 00:10:35,630 --> 00:10:33,180 like he's a he has five engineering 296 00:10:37,790 --> 00:10:35,640 degrees he's a genius doesn't mean he's 297 00:10:38,870 --> 00:10:37,800 out for nefarious reasons but these 298 00:10:40,970 --> 00:10:38,880 people that are privy to this 299 00:10:42,829 --> 00:10:40,980 information when they do want to do 300 00:10:44,269 --> 00:10:42,839 their own projects they're also subject 301 00:10:47,210 --> 00:10:44,279 to the scrutiny of the government 302 00:10:49,430 --> 00:10:47,220 because you're in this with us that also 303 00:10:50,750 --> 00:10:49,440 means we open the book of your life and 304 00:10:53,449 --> 00:10:50,760 we're gonna watch you 305 00:10:57,290 --> 00:10:53,459 there's also been a lawsuit uh against 306 00:10:59,509 --> 00:10:57,300 the U.S military and it was one was when 307 00:11:01,850 --> 00:10:59,519 that uh yes there was a mother a 308 00:11:04,610 --> 00:11:01,860 grandmother and a son that were driving 309 00:11:06,769 --> 00:11:04,620 and this diamond-shaped craft that 310 00:11:10,550 --> 00:11:06,779 seemed to you know have Fire come out of 311 00:11:13,850 --> 00:11:10,560 the bottom uh flew over them with 18 and 312 00:11:17,269 --> 00:11:13,860 I say this 18. I think those Hercules 313 00:11:18,350 --> 00:11:17,279 helicopters or the big ones anyways I 314 00:11:20,810 --> 00:11:18,360 figured I'd bad with the name 315 00:11:23,030 --> 00:11:20,820 helicopters it wasn't Apaches it was one 316 00:11:24,910 --> 00:11:23,040 of those those big Hercules of looking 317 00:11:28,370 --> 00:11:24,920 yeah 318 00:11:29,990 --> 00:11:28,380 copper 18 of them 18 of them escort 319 00:11:32,269 --> 00:11:30,000 again yeah the mother and the 320 00:11:33,829 --> 00:11:32,279 grandmother both got out of the car to 321 00:11:35,930 --> 00:11:33,839 take a look at this thing because it was 322 00:11:38,509 --> 00:11:35,940 directly above them they both ended up 323 00:11:40,910 --> 00:11:38,519 with radiation poisoning wow and so did 324 00:11:42,470 --> 00:11:40,920 the boy inside the car the car was lit 325 00:11:45,050 --> 00:11:42,480 up when he approached it with the meter 326 00:11:47,810 --> 00:11:45,060 it just went off the charts and they 327 00:11:50,750 --> 00:11:47,820 ended up suing the US government uh 328 00:11:53,690 --> 00:11:50,760 because of the radiation 329 00:11:55,730 --> 00:11:53,700 the US government could not deny that 330 00:11:56,990 --> 00:11:55,740 this did not take place because for them 331 00:11:59,030 --> 00:11:57,000 they didn't want this to go to court 332 00:12:00,769 --> 00:11:59,040 because they you know they don't want to 333 00:12:03,009 --> 00:12:00,779 admit that they were escorting a UFO 334 00:12:05,990 --> 00:12:03,019 right right so they won their case uh 335 00:12:08,389 --> 00:12:06,000 1977 you had those little orbs in Brazil 336 00:12:10,790 --> 00:12:08,399 that were zapping people causing them to 337 00:12:13,130 --> 00:12:10,800 be anemic hilarious yeah several people 338 00:12:15,610 --> 00:12:13,140 died right uh so when they say there's 339 00:12:18,350 --> 00:12:15,620 no medical offices because they're not 340 00:12:19,850 --> 00:12:18,360 investigating it close enough you go 341 00:12:21,430 --> 00:12:19,860 talk to Jacques Valley he'll tell you 342 00:12:24,470 --> 00:12:21,440 there's definitely you know physical 343 00:12:26,269 --> 00:12:24,480 psychological effects that take place so 344 00:12:28,269 --> 00:12:26,279 yeah I find that funny I think that 345 00:12:30,530 --> 00:12:28,279 we're still a ways away from them 346 00:12:32,150 --> 00:12:30,540 investigating that side but they're if 347 00:12:34,190 --> 00:12:32,160 they're not including in a report that 348 00:12:35,150 --> 00:12:34,200 means they're not investigating it and 349 00:12:37,370 --> 00:12:35,160 they're going to find it interesting 350 00:12:41,150 --> 00:12:37,380 when you see these uh reports of 351 00:12:43,730 --> 00:12:41,160 helicopters or aircraft escorting UFOs 352 00:12:46,790 --> 00:12:43,740 the only ones they're escorting are 353 00:12:50,389 --> 00:12:46,800 their own you can't escort a UFO if it 354 00:12:52,250 --> 00:12:50,399 works it's gone the plane been front and 355 00:12:55,009 --> 00:12:52,260 back makes a difference I think it's 356 00:12:57,350 --> 00:12:55,019 their feeble attempt at providing 357 00:12:59,389 --> 00:12:57,360 a proof that there was helicopters in 358 00:13:01,550 --> 00:12:59,399 the air so that's what you saw here's 359 00:13:03,949 --> 00:13:01,560 the proof we had 10 of them you just saw 360 00:13:05,389 --> 00:13:03,959 it as a UFO so they could back it up but 361 00:13:07,670 --> 00:13:05,399 I think it's more to try to give some 362 00:13:08,870 --> 00:13:07,680 type of cover it's like a screen you 363 00:13:11,629 --> 00:13:08,880 know what I mean otherwise you literally 364 00:13:13,129 --> 00:13:11,639 have top secret UFO flying unaccompanied 365 00:13:15,949 --> 00:13:13,139 so I think it's more of like a smoke 366 00:13:18,889 --> 00:13:15,959 screen because you cannot escort an 367 00:13:20,930 --> 00:13:18,899 actual UFO if it is what we think it is 368 00:13:23,750 --> 00:13:20,940 we can't even barely film the damn 369 00:13:25,250 --> 00:13:23,760 things unless it was flown by us humans 370 00:13:28,009 --> 00:13:25,260 like we're taking it out for a test run 371 00:13:29,629 --> 00:13:28,019 or something like that to fly it or just 372 00:13:31,190 --> 00:13:29,639 being escorted because something went 373 00:13:33,050 --> 00:13:31,200 wrong and you need to go back to base 374 00:13:35,090 --> 00:13:33,060 and you know we can't fly the ship 375 00:13:36,410 --> 00:13:35,100 whatever reason that may be but still 376 00:13:37,670 --> 00:13:36,420 how the hell did they get their hands 377 00:13:39,350 --> 00:13:37,680 what are they going to do if that is the 378 00:13:41,449 --> 00:13:39,360 case case and you're flying it and the 379 00:13:45,009 --> 00:13:41,459 thing malfunctions what are 15 Choppers 380 00:13:48,470 --> 00:13:47,389 there's literally no help that those 381 00:13:49,930 --> 00:13:48,480 things are going to provide it's 382 00:13:52,370 --> 00:13:49,940 probably more dangerous than anything 383 00:13:54,530 --> 00:13:52,380 flying in formation with an unknown 384 00:13:56,269 --> 00:13:54,540 craft in the middle you know yeah 385 00:13:58,030 --> 00:13:56,279 you know that that first of all that's 386 00:14:00,650 --> 00:13:58,040 that is a ton that's great because 387 00:14:03,170 --> 00:14:00,660 bringing up the the brazilis situations 388 00:14:04,850 --> 00:14:03,180 and others that is a I think that's a 389 00:14:06,590 --> 00:14:04,860 big deal we it's like people have left 390 00:14:07,910 --> 00:14:06,600 those out they've left them kind of 391 00:14:10,310 --> 00:14:07,920 further On The Fringe but those are 392 00:14:13,190 --> 00:14:10,320 really well documented and cooperated 393 00:14:15,410 --> 00:14:13,200 incidences in another country that the 394 00:14:17,509 --> 00:14:15,420 US has had a hand inside of just like 395 00:14:19,850 --> 00:14:17,519 what happened with the Virginia Brazil 396 00:14:22,129 --> 00:14:19,860 case that has been brought out 397 00:14:24,230 --> 00:14:22,139 um in the documentary 398 00:14:26,389 --> 00:14:24,240 um it's called moment of contact moment 399 00:14:29,150 --> 00:14:26,399 of contact thank you girlfriend James 400 00:14:31,970 --> 00:14:29,160 Fox so James Fox released that moment of 401 00:14:34,730 --> 00:14:31,980 contact just what about four months ago 402 00:14:36,170 --> 00:14:34,740 or so and I have I've heard a couple 403 00:14:38,090 --> 00:14:36,180 things about it but I feel like it's 404 00:14:41,210 --> 00:14:38,100 just gone completely under the radar 405 00:14:43,129 --> 00:14:41,220 since release that is amazing because in 406 00:14:44,569 --> 00:14:43,139 the documentary they bring up they show 407 00:14:46,129 --> 00:14:44,579 you the the the 408 00:14:48,110 --> 00:14:46,139 um news 409 00:14:49,730 --> 00:14:48,120 um uh the the news reporters that were 410 00:14:51,470 --> 00:14:49,740 were speaking to the general or the 411 00:14:53,629 --> 00:14:51,480 military officer who was who was 412 00:14:55,850 --> 00:14:53,639 directly involved with this they speak 413 00:14:57,290 --> 00:14:55,860 to the eyewitnesses they speak to other 414 00:14:59,269 --> 00:14:57,300 witnesses that were afraid to come 415 00:15:00,829 --> 00:14:59,279 forward and there's so much cooperating 416 00:15:02,870 --> 00:15:00,839 evidence that this situation only 417 00:15:05,030 --> 00:15:02,880 happened but that the US government was 418 00:15:07,910 --> 00:15:05,040 involved with retrieving the craft and 419 00:15:09,110 --> 00:15:07,920 the alleged body of the of the being and 420 00:15:12,170 --> 00:15:09,120 during that incident there was a health 421 00:15:13,610 --> 00:15:12,180 effect of one of the officers he died he 422 00:15:16,550 --> 00:15:13,620 came in contact with the being he picked 423 00:15:18,650 --> 00:15:16,560 it up and he died the same night that he 424 00:15:20,930 --> 00:15:18,660 touched that that being from a rare 425 00:15:22,790 --> 00:15:20,940 disease it was like a crazy microbial 426 00:15:23,990 --> 00:15:22,800 infection or something like that right 427 00:15:25,069 --> 00:15:24,000 but here's the thing all that 428 00:15:26,870 --> 00:15:25,079 information that's like an old story 429 00:15:29,210 --> 00:15:26,880 it's like 15 years old because I know 430 00:15:31,310 --> 00:15:29,220 James Fox went back and forth for over a 431 00:15:34,009 --> 00:15:31,320 decade just getting pieces and pieces 432 00:15:35,689 --> 00:15:34,019 had no intend to make a movie and then 433 00:15:37,550 --> 00:15:35,699 finally was like hey we gotta look at 434 00:15:39,769 --> 00:15:37,560 this like there's people in from the 435 00:15:42,110 --> 00:15:39,779 military there's medical doctors x-ray 436 00:15:44,449 --> 00:15:42,120 technologists like legitimate trained 437 00:15:46,430 --> 00:15:44,459 people that all say the same thing and 438 00:15:48,829 --> 00:15:46,440 to your point Marquis about the us being 439 00:15:51,530 --> 00:15:48,839 involved they all said the same it went 440 00:15:53,689 --> 00:15:51,540 from the site to the hospital to be 441 00:15:56,329 --> 00:15:53,699 examined then the military took it to 442 00:15:58,370 --> 00:15:56,339 the air base and there was a U.S plane 443 00:16:00,410 --> 00:15:58,380 ready to they wheeled it in there and 444 00:16:01,970 --> 00:16:00,420 the way it went right so and the NASA 445 00:16:04,670 --> 00:16:01,980 was also involved allegedly NASA was 446 00:16:07,430 --> 00:16:04,680 also involved with him the U.S is NASA I 447 00:16:09,710 --> 00:16:07,440 mean come on guys if we when it comes to 448 00:16:10,850 --> 00:16:09,720 confirmation or disclosure that's kind 449 00:16:12,230 --> 00:16:10,860 of why I wanted to bring these things up 450 00:16:13,730 --> 00:16:12,240 because I feel like there there needs to 451 00:16:14,509 --> 00:16:13,740 be a conversation about what disclosure 452 00:16:19,189 --> 00:16:14,519 is 453 00:16:20,629 --> 00:16:19,199 especially the U.S population 454 00:16:22,670 --> 00:16:20,639 um I speak to a lot of them but the 455 00:16:24,710 --> 00:16:22,680 Canadian government and people feel it 456 00:16:27,050 --> 00:16:24,720 completely different about disclosure 457 00:16:29,210 --> 00:16:27,060 than the US population does the U.S 458 00:16:31,129 --> 00:16:29,220 takes this position the standpoint of a 459 00:16:32,930 --> 00:16:31,139 threat the US government takes the 460 00:16:35,930 --> 00:16:32,940 position of a threat that this phenomena 461 00:16:37,970 --> 00:16:35,940 poses a potential national security 462 00:16:39,769 --> 00:16:37,980 threat to the U.S Canadian government 463 00:16:41,329 --> 00:16:39,779 feels the exact opposite that there is 464 00:16:44,569 --> 00:16:41,339 no threat because there has not been any 465 00:16:48,050 --> 00:16:44,579 necessarily any intentional or any known 466 00:16:50,389 --> 00:16:48,060 intention to harm human beings in any 467 00:16:52,910 --> 00:16:50,399 way intentional is the word because 468 00:16:54,350 --> 00:16:52,920 there are side effects to just coming in 469 00:16:55,030 --> 00:16:54,360 contact or you want to call it any kind 470 00:16:57,710 --> 00:16:55,040 of 471 00:17:00,769 --> 00:16:57,720 peripheral effects but there's no direct 472 00:17:02,870 --> 00:17:00,779 knowledge of any kind of threat to us or 473 00:17:04,789 --> 00:17:02,880 imminent danger like an invasion or 474 00:17:05,809 --> 00:17:04,799 something like that so the US has taken 475 00:17:07,250 --> 00:17:05,819 a completely different position I want 476 00:17:08,270 --> 00:17:07,260 to find out why that is and kind of see 477 00:17:09,470 --> 00:17:08,280 what you guys think about that as well 478 00:17:11,270 --> 00:17:09,480 but first 479 00:17:13,010 --> 00:17:11,280 now that we've kind of set the stage for 480 00:17:15,829 --> 00:17:13,020 the fact that there is health effects in 481 00:17:17,689 --> 00:17:15,839 the 2020 report completely ignored that 482 00:17:19,490 --> 00:17:17,699 um they did it intelligently but they 483 00:17:21,530 --> 00:17:19,500 but we're not we're not stupid they're 484 00:17:23,510 --> 00:17:21,540 clever but we we see through that I 485 00:17:24,710 --> 00:17:23,520 wanted to talk about something else and 486 00:17:26,929 --> 00:17:24,720 some comments made by some pretty 487 00:17:29,210 --> 00:17:26,939 prominent figures like Gary Nolan now 488 00:17:30,230 --> 00:17:29,220 there's an Infamous document that's 489 00:17:33,470 --> 00:17:30,240 floating around the internet called 490 00:17:35,570 --> 00:17:33,480 slide nine and slide 9 is allegedly a an 491 00:17:37,070 --> 00:17:35,580 a-tip it's part of a classified briefing 492 00:17:38,810 --> 00:17:37,080 that atip gave 493 00:17:42,049 --> 00:17:38,820 um when Louis Lozano was a part of the a 494 00:17:43,250 --> 00:17:42,059 part of atip and this document says and 495 00:17:45,289 --> 00:17:43,260 I'm going to read it because I think 496 00:17:48,350 --> 00:17:45,299 it's really important to understand the 497 00:17:50,270 --> 00:17:48,360 science exists for an enemy keyword of 498 00:17:52,490 --> 00:17:50,280 the United States to manipulate both 499 00:17:53,930 --> 00:17:52,500 physical and cognitive environments in 500 00:17:56,750 --> 00:17:53,940 order to penetrate U.S facilities 501 00:17:59,090 --> 00:17:56,760 influence decision makers and compromise 502 00:18:01,730 --> 00:17:59,100 National Security psychotronic weapons 503 00:18:04,070 --> 00:18:01,740 cognitive human interface penetration of 504 00:18:06,169 --> 00:18:04,080 Solid Surfaces instantaneous sensory 505 00:18:07,310 --> 00:18:06,179 dissembly disassembly which is really 506 00:18:09,409 --> 00:18:07,320 weird 507 00:18:12,890 --> 00:18:09,419 um alterations manipulation of 508 00:18:15,529 --> 00:18:12,900 biological organisms anomalies in the 509 00:18:18,169 --> 00:18:15,539 space-time construct unique cognitive 510 00:18:20,690 --> 00:18:18,179 human interface experiences and DOD 511 00:18:23,150 --> 00:18:20,700 advantages DOD has been involved in 512 00:18:24,710 --> 00:18:23,160 similar experiments in the past DOD has 513 00:18:28,130 --> 00:18:24,720 relationships with the renowned subject 514 00:18:30,230 --> 00:18:28,140 matter experts the dod controls several 515 00:18:31,970 --> 00:18:30,240 facilities where activities have been 516 00:18:34,549 --> 00:18:31,980 detected 517 00:18:38,270 --> 00:18:34,559 what was considered phenomena is now 518 00:18:40,370 --> 00:18:38,280 quantum physics I think that that is a 519 00:18:42,650 --> 00:18:40,380 that's it's like a mind-blowing document 520 00:18:43,850 --> 00:18:42,660 and when people think about why ask the 521 00:18:45,470 --> 00:18:43,860 question of why isn't the government 522 00:18:47,029 --> 00:18:45,480 just telling us the US government seems 523 00:18:48,890 --> 00:18:47,039 to be the center of disclosure for the 524 00:18:50,690 --> 00:18:48,900 world why hasn't U.S government come 525 00:18:52,370 --> 00:18:50,700 forward and said this is what it is this 526 00:18:54,169 --> 00:18:52,380 is what is behind it this is who's 527 00:18:56,570 --> 00:18:54,179 operating it and so on and so forth well 528 00:18:57,590 --> 00:18:56,580 if you read that slide nine you got a 529 00:18:59,630 --> 00:18:57,600 pretty good idea of why the government 530 00:19:01,190 --> 00:18:59,640 doesn't just tell us that would that's 531 00:19:03,350 --> 00:19:01,200 what would cause Panic it's not that 532 00:19:06,289 --> 00:19:03,360 there's life out there is it that life 533 00:19:08,810 --> 00:19:06,299 has complete you you know it's just 534 00:19:11,150 --> 00:19:08,820 autonomy to do whatever it wants to with 535 00:19:13,190 --> 00:19:11,160 complete impunity and no one can stop it 536 00:19:14,450 --> 00:19:13,200 and that's the fear that's what the 537 00:19:15,830 --> 00:19:14,460 government is the US government is 538 00:19:18,110 --> 00:19:15,840 talking about when it comes to potential 539 00:19:20,510 --> 00:19:18,120 danger or Potential Threat and fear what 540 00:19:22,490 --> 00:19:20,520 do you guys think about that 541 00:19:24,470 --> 00:19:22,500 I'll I'll take I'll just be quick on 542 00:19:26,090 --> 00:19:24,480 this one you just said that you know 543 00:19:28,130 --> 00:19:26,100 they they don't want to admit these 544 00:19:31,190 --> 00:19:28,140 things if you read what you just read 545 00:19:33,470 --> 00:19:31,200 again when they say the science exists 546 00:19:35,990 --> 00:19:33,480 for an enemy of the United States right 547 00:19:38,330 --> 00:19:36,000 to potentially use all this that means 548 00:19:41,029 --> 00:19:38,340 you know of the science you have it 549 00:19:42,350 --> 00:19:41,039 yourself okay as if you if you were gay 550 00:19:44,330 --> 00:19:42,360 like getting that information through 551 00:19:46,310 --> 00:19:44,340 Espionage you wouldn't be putting out in 552 00:19:47,810 --> 00:19:46,320 public information that we know our 553 00:19:51,770 --> 00:19:47,820 enemies have these things against us 554 00:19:54,110 --> 00:19:51,780 it's black and white we have cyclotronic 555 00:19:56,150 --> 00:19:54,120 weapons uh cognitive human interfaces 556 00:19:58,850 --> 00:19:56,160 penetration of solid Service uh 557 00:20:01,090 --> 00:19:58,860 potential uh what is it alteration of 558 00:20:04,970 --> 00:20:01,100 manipulation of biological organisms 559 00:20:07,130 --> 00:20:04,980 cognitive human interfaces we can 560 00:20:10,070 --> 00:20:07,140 control things with our mind that's just 561 00:20:12,409 --> 00:20:10,080 saying we haven't in my opinion that's 562 00:20:15,049 --> 00:20:12,419 what it says no you're so just so you're 563 00:20:17,510 --> 00:20:15,059 aware it says DOD hasn't has been 564 00:20:20,450 --> 00:20:17,520 involved in similar experiments in the 565 00:20:22,010 --> 00:20:20,460 past they are aware of it what about you 566 00:20:23,990 --> 00:20:22,020 you Jason 567 00:20:28,190 --> 00:20:24,000 oh no they're aware of it and the thing 568 00:20:30,230 --> 00:20:28,200 is is what do they say we use 12 of the 569 00:20:32,690 --> 00:20:30,240 potential of our brain so there's a lot 570 00:20:34,549 --> 00:20:32,700 more room for growth and you're right 571 00:20:36,470 --> 00:20:34,559 you were talking about you know uh 572 00:20:39,350 --> 00:20:36,480 telepathy and being able to move things 573 00:20:42,169 --> 00:20:39,360 with your mind is how many people know 574 00:20:44,870 --> 00:20:42,179 it's it's very much documented now 575 00:20:47,270 --> 00:20:44,880 um the CIA did experiments with people 576 00:20:48,409 --> 00:20:47,280 that can see in other countries while 577 00:20:51,230 --> 00:20:48,419 they're sitting down having remote 578 00:20:54,049 --> 00:20:51,240 viewing yeah remote viewing and that's 579 00:20:56,409 --> 00:20:54,059 crazy like when you start thinking about 580 00:20:59,330 --> 00:20:56,419 the possibilities you know that we have 581 00:21:02,330 --> 00:20:59,340 these entities also seem to be able to 582 00:21:03,830 --> 00:21:02,340 focus on something inside of us that is 583 00:21:06,350 --> 00:21:03,840 not awakened but they seem to be able to 584 00:21:08,270 --> 00:21:06,360 talk to it and people say you know 585 00:21:09,710 --> 00:21:08,280 they don't say a thing their mouths 586 00:21:11,690 --> 00:21:09,720 don't move but you hear them in your 587 00:21:13,730 --> 00:21:11,700 mind right uh they're able to do that 588 00:21:15,890 --> 00:21:13,740 for multiple people at once at the 589 00:21:18,350 --> 00:21:15,900 Zimbabwe School the area of school they 590 00:21:20,450 --> 00:21:18,360 talk to like 60 plus kids all at once 591 00:21:22,610 --> 00:21:20,460 they all had different messages from 592 00:21:24,890 --> 00:21:22,620 this entity some of them felt like you 593 00:21:26,270 --> 00:21:24,900 know he wanted to take him with him and 594 00:21:28,190 --> 00:21:26,280 show them the ship other people were 595 00:21:29,930 --> 00:21:28,200 getting visions of the end of the world 596 00:21:31,909 --> 00:21:29,940 uh some other ones were getting 597 00:21:35,390 --> 00:21:31,919 different messages that's crazy that all 598 00:21:37,669 --> 00:21:35,400 came from one entity and the potential 599 00:21:39,169 --> 00:21:37,679 there of you know are we capable of 600 00:21:41,029 --> 00:21:39,179 doing this well yeah they're saying that 601 00:21:44,210 --> 00:21:41,039 right there in that report or the slide 602 00:21:46,430 --> 00:21:44,220 nine that we are able to do these things 603 00:21:48,830 --> 00:21:46,440 so you know the the power of the 604 00:21:51,049 --> 00:21:48,840 population must be huge or the potential 605 00:21:53,450 --> 00:21:51,059 there is huge right if you think about 606 00:21:55,669 --> 00:21:53,460 it if you were able to do it imagine if 607 00:21:57,590 --> 00:21:55,679 the masses could do it the thing I find 608 00:21:59,330 --> 00:21:57,600 cool about the Rua Zimbabwe case because 609 00:22:00,590 --> 00:21:59,340 we interviewed Randy Nickerson the guy 610 00:22:01,909 --> 00:22:00,600 who made the movie aerial School 611 00:22:03,610 --> 00:22:01,919 phenomena right you've interviewed 612 00:22:06,110 --> 00:22:03,620 everyone what are you talking about 613 00:22:10,270 --> 00:22:06,120 we're no we still got a bunch of bangers 614 00:22:14,930 --> 00:22:12,770 so we're excited to take this 615 00:22:16,610 --> 00:22:14,940 information as well and bring that into 616 00:22:18,169 --> 00:22:16,620 our own show but I was just going to say 617 00:22:19,850 --> 00:22:18,179 about the rule Zimbabwe the fact that it 618 00:22:21,830 --> 00:22:19,860 was multiple kids they all got a 619 00:22:25,310 --> 00:22:21,840 different message and they seem to have 620 00:22:28,850 --> 00:22:25,320 that same spectrum of good versus bad 621 00:22:30,409 --> 00:22:28,860 experience as average contactees some 622 00:22:32,390 --> 00:22:30,419 people said it was positive some people 623 00:22:33,950 --> 00:22:32,400 thought it was scary some people got a 624 00:22:35,930 --> 00:22:33,960 message some people just kind of stood 625 00:22:37,909 --> 00:22:35,940 there they felt Frozen these kids had 626 00:22:39,230 --> 00:22:37,919 the same gamut some of them wanted to go 627 00:22:41,149 --> 00:22:39,240 with the aliens some of them were 628 00:22:43,730 --> 00:22:41,159 terrified so it's like The Human 629 00:22:45,649 --> 00:22:43,740 Condition some will experience it one 630 00:22:48,230 --> 00:22:45,659 way some will experience it another 631 00:22:50,390 --> 00:22:48,240 maybe it isn't a positive or negative 632 00:22:52,190 --> 00:22:50,400 it's just how we as humans are taking it 633 00:22:54,409 --> 00:22:52,200 and I found that really interesting that 634 00:22:56,570 --> 00:22:54,419 kids with no filter and no prior 635 00:22:58,909 --> 00:22:56,580 knowledge of any of this they still had 636 00:23:02,149 --> 00:22:58,919 that same almost like organic reaction 637 00:23:04,010 --> 00:23:02,159 that a lot of UFO contactee people say 638 00:23:06,529 --> 00:23:04,020 that they had so I thought that was 639 00:23:08,270 --> 00:23:06,539 super interesting so ironically know 640 00:23:09,649 --> 00:23:08,280 even my experience nothing bad I don't 641 00:23:11,029 --> 00:23:09,659 even I mean I don't know if anything bad 642 00:23:12,470 --> 00:23:11,039 happened to me but my experience was 643 00:23:15,049 --> 00:23:12,480 just feeling fear 644 00:23:16,430 --> 00:23:15,059 but nothing happened I just was afraid I 645 00:23:17,630 --> 00:23:16,440 didn't like what I was looking at I 646 00:23:19,610 --> 00:23:17,640 didn't like the way that I felt I didn't 647 00:23:21,710 --> 00:23:19,620 like that I wasn't in control and so 648 00:23:23,930 --> 00:23:21,720 nothing again nothing that I was aware 649 00:23:26,570 --> 00:23:23,940 of bad happened to me but for me it was 650 00:23:28,610 --> 00:23:26,580 just fear of not being in control and so 651 00:23:30,470 --> 00:23:28,620 yes I see I mean I could see how people 652 00:23:32,210 --> 00:23:30,480 are they're they're translating this 653 00:23:35,029 --> 00:23:32,220 experience those experiences into a 654 00:23:38,029 --> 00:23:35,039 fearful one and yet they'd like the kids 655 00:23:40,250 --> 00:23:38,039 in Zimbabwe Their Fear was met with a 656 00:23:43,250 --> 00:23:40,260 warning a warning about our own 657 00:23:44,390 --> 00:23:43,260 Potential Threat to ourselves 658 00:23:46,070 --> 00:23:44,400 um we seem to be one of the greatest 659 00:23:47,390 --> 00:23:46,080 threats to ourselves more than anyone I 660 00:23:48,830 --> 00:23:47,400 mean we could just press a button and 661 00:23:50,510 --> 00:23:48,840 literally end the civilization As We 662 00:23:52,730 --> 00:23:50,520 Know It And yet we're afraid of these 663 00:23:54,470 --> 00:23:52,740 beings who haven't ended us all who have 664 00:23:57,289 --> 00:23:54,480 clearly been here for thousands of years 665 00:23:59,149 --> 00:23:57,299 as stated by people like Gary Noland and 666 00:24:01,610 --> 00:23:59,159 Jacques valet and others given the 667 00:24:03,830 --> 00:24:01,620 history of people human beings in 668 00:24:06,590 --> 00:24:03,840 contact with this this seemingly 669 00:24:08,390 --> 00:24:06,600 paranormal you know um a phenomena it's 670 00:24:09,830 --> 00:24:08,400 been there forever there are Bibles 671 00:24:11,570 --> 00:24:09,840 written about it there is a Bible 672 00:24:13,010 --> 00:24:11,580 written about all kinds of contact with 673 00:24:15,710 --> 00:24:13,020 beings from other dimensions 674 00:24:17,690 --> 00:24:15,720 or another place or whatever 675 00:24:20,149 --> 00:24:17,700 um and other ones like the Incas and the 676 00:24:21,830 --> 00:24:20,159 Mayans and the and the Egyptians and you 677 00:24:24,409 --> 00:24:21,840 name it all over the world everywhere 678 00:24:26,029 --> 00:24:24,419 there's accounts of these beings in some 679 00:24:29,990 --> 00:24:26,039 shape or form interacting with humanity 680 00:24:31,250 --> 00:24:30,000 and being like Gods so the fear I can I 681 00:24:32,930 --> 00:24:31,260 can understand even in the Bible they 682 00:24:35,810 --> 00:24:32,940 say you know there are angels that met 683 00:24:37,310 --> 00:24:35,820 with humans and those angels they struck 684 00:24:38,810 --> 00:24:37,320 fear into the hearts of the men they 685 00:24:41,149 --> 00:24:38,820 were encountering well these are these 686 00:24:43,669 --> 00:24:41,159 are angels that are from God right the 687 00:24:45,529 --> 00:24:43,679 God so why are you afraid because 688 00:24:47,090 --> 00:24:45,539 there's just a we just respond that way 689 00:24:49,310 --> 00:24:47,100 to their presence whatever they are 690 00:24:51,649 --> 00:24:49,320 that's how we feel about their presence 691 00:24:53,330 --> 00:24:51,659 it's like it penetrates deeper into the 692 00:24:55,430 --> 00:24:53,340 being of who we are the core of what we 693 00:24:57,169 --> 00:24:55,440 are on the inside it's amazing so it's 694 00:24:58,370 --> 00:24:57,179 just the idea of what they are is 695 00:25:00,230 --> 00:24:58,380 phenomenal and we're going to talk about 696 00:25:01,250 --> 00:25:00,240 that specifically 697 00:25:02,510 --> 00:25:01,260 um so the first thing I wanted to 698 00:25:05,510 --> 00:25:02,520 mention was 699 00:25:07,010 --> 00:25:05,520 a comment by Christopher Mellon now in 700 00:25:09,529 --> 00:25:07,020 case audience who don't know who that is 701 00:25:11,090 --> 00:25:09,539 he is the to sum it up he's the former 702 00:25:12,770 --> 00:25:11,100 deputy assistant secretary of defense 703 00:25:15,529 --> 00:25:12,780 for intelligence in the Clinton and 704 00:25:17,810 --> 00:25:15,539 George Bush W Bush Administration and 705 00:25:20,690 --> 00:25:17,820 later for the security and information 706 00:25:22,850 --> 00:25:20,700 operation so he is he's a pretty 707 00:25:24,950 --> 00:25:22,860 reputable person he 708 00:25:26,630 --> 00:25:24,960 is he's involved in the intelligence 709 00:25:28,970 --> 00:25:26,640 Community he was he was a part of the 710 00:25:30,649 --> 00:25:28,980 National Security and apparatus in the 711 00:25:32,990 --> 00:25:30,659 defense department I mean he's a pretty 712 00:25:34,850 --> 00:25:33,000 important guy and he wrote an article 713 00:25:37,370 --> 00:25:34,860 recently after the dod released had 714 00:25:38,510 --> 00:25:37,380 ridiculous report who and I'm gonna I 715 00:25:39,649 --> 00:25:38,520 pulled a couple comments that I wanted 716 00:25:41,750 --> 00:25:39,659 to mention so I'm going to read one of 717 00:25:43,669 --> 00:25:41,760 them right now unfortunately the report 718 00:25:45,470 --> 00:25:43,679 presents the bare minimum of information 719 00:25:47,990 --> 00:25:45,480 needed to comply with congress's 720 00:25:50,149 --> 00:25:48,000 requests for an unclassified report in 721 00:25:52,490 --> 00:25:50,159 some regards the report is even less 722 00:25:55,010 --> 00:25:52,500 informative than the initial preliminary 723 00:25:57,230 --> 00:25:55,020 report release in June of 2021. for 724 00:25:58,669 --> 00:25:57,240 example the preliminary report disclosed 725 00:26:02,029 --> 00:25:58,679 the number of incidents that were 726 00:26:04,909 --> 00:26:02,039 confirmed by multiple sensors EG radar 727 00:26:07,630 --> 00:26:04,919 Visual and IR moreover New York Times 728 00:26:10,610 --> 00:26:07,640 columnist Julian Barnes 729 00:26:12,289 --> 00:26:10,620 citing unnamed American officials claims 730 00:26:14,990 --> 00:26:12,299 that some of the incidents involving U.S 731 00:26:17,390 --> 00:26:15,000 military assets proved to be Chinese 732 00:26:19,549 --> 00:26:17,400 drones that information May indeed be in 733 00:26:21,950 --> 00:26:19,559 the classified report but is not in this 734 00:26:24,470 --> 00:26:21,960 unclassified report there is also no 735 00:26:27,649 --> 00:26:24,480 indication in the report if any of the 736 00:26:30,169 --> 00:26:27,659 314 events that were in space or 737 00:26:32,510 --> 00:26:30,179 underwater or were attributed to foreign 738 00:26:35,690 --> 00:26:32,520 governments unanswered questions abound 739 00:26:37,549 --> 00:26:35,700 and that is that to finalize that that 740 00:26:39,590 --> 00:26:37,559 statement unanswered questions are bound 741 00:26:42,230 --> 00:26:39,600 because the last time and like you said 742 00:26:43,669 --> 00:26:42,240 on Louis you said oh they spent four 743 00:26:46,430 --> 00:26:43,679 months waiting to give us this report 744 00:26:48,769 --> 00:26:46,440 well yeah and they gave us nothing it 745 00:26:50,090 --> 00:26:48,779 was what did you wait four months for we 746 00:26:51,769 --> 00:26:50,100 were told oh they're just they want to 747 00:26:53,450 --> 00:26:51,779 make sure it's right well they made sure 748 00:26:55,730 --> 00:26:53,460 it's right but they 749 00:26:57,710 --> 00:26:55,740 it's like skim milk like one percent 750 00:26:59,870 --> 00:26:57,720 milk you told us you were gonna do it 751 00:27:01,549 --> 00:26:59,880 right and give us whole milk with the 752 00:27:04,430 --> 00:27:01,559 fats and the sugars and all and you gave 753 00:27:06,350 --> 00:27:04,440 us one percent milk four months late 754 00:27:07,970 --> 00:27:06,360 with the original report I think was in 755 00:27:10,010 --> 00:27:07,980 March and this was supposed to come out 756 00:27:11,510 --> 00:27:10,020 by Halloween so they already had months 757 00:27:13,070 --> 00:27:11,520 and months and months and months and 758 00:27:15,769 --> 00:27:13,080 then it was four months late on top of 759 00:27:18,169 --> 00:27:15,779 that so this was not just a four-month 760 00:27:19,250 --> 00:27:18,179 thing it was almost a year from one to 761 00:27:21,230 --> 00:27:19,260 the next 762 00:27:22,669 --> 00:27:21,240 yeah it reminds me of like a guy at a 763 00:27:24,590 --> 00:27:22,679 bar that's like you know trying to pick 764 00:27:27,610 --> 00:27:24,600 a fight and he's talking a big game 765 00:27:29,750 --> 00:27:27,620 right and you see him fighting he's like 766 00:27:31,970 --> 00:27:29,760 you know like a [\h__\h] like that's 767 00:27:36,289 --> 00:27:31,980 exactly what that report was it's just 768 00:27:37,669 --> 00:27:36,299 disappointing right uh yeah that's a 769 00:27:39,470 --> 00:27:37,679 great analogy by the way I mean it 770 00:27:41,330 --> 00:27:39,480 sounds like all that would be in the 771 00:27:42,950 --> 00:27:41,340 classified report but they're not 772 00:27:44,870 --> 00:27:42,960 acknowledging that it is because then 773 00:27:47,510 --> 00:27:44,880 that gives away the fact that there is 774 00:27:50,090 --> 00:27:47,520 some proof eventually the pressure is 775 00:27:52,130 --> 00:27:50,100 going to be to declassify that so it's 776 00:27:54,769 --> 00:27:52,140 still a lot of don't talk about it going 777 00:27:56,450 --> 00:27:54,779 on and this is evidence of that and they 778 00:27:58,010 --> 00:27:56,460 did tell us that in the in the 2021 779 00:28:00,590 --> 00:27:58,020 report they claimed they said they 780 00:28:02,930 --> 00:28:00,600 weren't supposed to be and the ndaa by 781 00:28:05,930 --> 00:28:02,940 the way they're supposed to give us very 782 00:28:08,870 --> 00:28:05,940 clear reports about incidents that are 783 00:28:10,970 --> 00:28:08,880 not balloons that are not drones that 784 00:28:12,769 --> 00:28:10,980 are not Airborne clutter they're only 785 00:28:15,710 --> 00:28:12,779 supposed to focus on the ones that are 786 00:28:18,830 --> 00:28:15,720 anomalous and instead they focused 787 00:28:21,409 --> 00:28:18,840 heavily on emphasizing the fact that the 788 00:28:23,149 --> 00:28:21,419 most k cases by the way over 50 percent 789 00:28:26,090 --> 00:28:23,159 of them are 790 00:28:28,190 --> 00:28:26,100 that of that category the Clutter the 791 00:28:30,710 --> 00:28:28,200 drones that did this so on and so forth 792 00:28:33,289 --> 00:28:30,720 the balloons the balloon-like entities 793 00:28:34,370 --> 00:28:33,299 which I don't know what that's supposed 794 00:28:35,990 --> 00:28:34,380 to mean 795 00:28:38,149 --> 00:28:36,000 um it's what an interesting term to use 796 00:28:39,409 --> 00:28:38,159 but then they did the exact opposite of 797 00:28:40,730 --> 00:28:39,419 what they said they were supposed to 798 00:28:42,350 --> 00:28:40,740 they didn't follow they didn't even 799 00:28:45,169 --> 00:28:42,360 adhere to the to the to the guidelines 800 00:28:48,230 --> 00:28:45,179 that they set for themselves 801 00:28:49,310 --> 00:28:48,240 frustration and of course um unanswered 802 00:28:51,230 --> 00:28:49,320 questions 803 00:28:53,390 --> 00:28:51,240 I'm not I'm not expecting too much from 804 00:28:56,390 --> 00:28:53,400 them in the future to be totally honest 805 00:28:57,950 --> 00:28:56,400 to be totally honest so the next comment 806 00:29:00,409 --> 00:28:57,960 that I wanted to pull from that that 807 00:29:02,810 --> 00:29:00,419 document that that that piece that he 808 00:29:04,450 --> 00:29:02,820 wrote was probably the most the most 809 00:29:07,310 --> 00:29:04,460 interesting and the most telling to me 810 00:29:10,549 --> 00:29:07,320 indeed I've spoken with several credible 811 00:29:13,610 --> 00:29:10,559 people who claim the U.S has evidence of 812 00:29:16,789 --> 00:29:13,620 alien technology in its possession these 813 00:29:19,789 --> 00:29:16,799 are indeed exciting times now if the dod 814 00:29:21,590 --> 00:29:19,799 is not going to do it if if a tip or 815 00:29:23,149 --> 00:29:21,600 sorry now it's arrow is not going to do 816 00:29:24,230 --> 00:29:23,159 it if they're not going to do what 817 00:29:25,490 --> 00:29:24,240 they're supposed to do well Christopher 818 00:29:28,190 --> 00:29:25,500 melon said I'm just going to let you 819 00:29:30,889 --> 00:29:28,200 know that I know people who know people 820 00:29:33,470 --> 00:29:30,899 who are involved with these but these 821 00:29:35,210 --> 00:29:33,480 these possible alien material and he's 822 00:29:37,310 --> 00:29:35,220 not the only one other people have come 823 00:29:40,010 --> 00:29:37,320 out and said that they are that there 824 00:29:43,490 --> 00:29:40,020 are people that have the US specifically 825 00:29:44,630 --> 00:29:43,500 that have access to alien technology and 826 00:29:46,130 --> 00:29:44,640 they're supposed to they're supposed to 827 00:29:48,529 --> 00:29:46,140 release that information they put it in 828 00:29:50,210 --> 00:29:48,539 the ndaa they put that they need to tell 829 00:29:52,250 --> 00:29:50,220 us about these things so what do you 830 00:29:54,649 --> 00:29:52,260 guys think about that 831 00:29:56,990 --> 00:29:54,659 I think it's already been done uh Bob 832 00:29:59,690 --> 00:29:57,000 Lazar told us in 1989 what the 833 00:30:01,490 --> 00:29:59,700 government was up to he just laid it all 834 00:30:04,310 --> 00:30:01,500 out there and I think for years people 835 00:30:06,169 --> 00:30:04,320 still I'm not sure about Bob Lazar what 836 00:30:08,389 --> 00:30:06,179 are you not sure on right because 837 00:30:10,789 --> 00:30:08,399 everything he said is technically the 838 00:30:13,190 --> 00:30:10,799 truth it's it's happening right now 839 00:30:15,169 --> 00:30:13,200 right if he says we have the technology 840 00:30:17,269 --> 00:30:15,179 to be able to fly like that report was 841 00:30:18,950 --> 00:30:17,279 saying well how the hell did you obtain 842 00:30:20,510 --> 00:30:18,960 that technology like if you don't have 843 00:30:23,450 --> 00:30:20,520 anything to base yourself on it's like 844 00:30:25,430 --> 00:30:23,460 you just came up with the idea for Zero 845 00:30:27,649 --> 00:30:25,440 Point Energy like you would have to take 846 00:30:29,930 --> 00:30:27,659 that that from somewhere 847 00:30:31,669 --> 00:30:29,940 yes I think we you know the United 848 00:30:34,190 --> 00:30:31,679 States have had possession of these 849 00:30:35,870 --> 00:30:34,200 crafts uh possession of entities uh not 850 00:30:38,570 --> 00:30:35,880 only do they cross the border on Canada 851 00:30:40,789 --> 00:30:38,580 to come pick up stuff but they do it in 852 00:30:42,529 --> 00:30:40,799 Brazil they do it everywhere Afghanistan 853 00:30:44,690 --> 00:30:42,539 yeah you name it don't if they could 854 00:30:46,370 --> 00:30:44,700 grab it they'll ship it back home they 855 00:30:48,710 --> 00:30:46,380 probably have the biggest collection of 856 00:30:50,810 --> 00:30:48,720 crafts of any country in the world and 857 00:30:53,389 --> 00:30:50,820 that includes Russia right Russia's got 858 00:30:55,070 --> 00:30:53,399 a few probably at this point but uh the 859 00:30:56,210 --> 00:30:55,080 United States definitely beats them in 860 00:30:58,669 --> 00:30:56,220 the amount of 861 00:31:01,610 --> 00:30:58,679 probably species that they have too 862 00:31:03,230 --> 00:31:01,620 so and you know 863 00:31:04,490 --> 00:31:03,240 I forgot where I was going with this but 864 00:31:07,909 --> 00:31:04,500 uh 865 00:31:10,430 --> 00:31:07,919 the concept of of these crafts being 866 00:31:12,169 --> 00:31:10,440 here and us having the technology Bob 867 00:31:14,149 --> 00:31:12,179 Lazar saying 868 00:31:15,049 --> 00:31:14,159 we're trying to reverse engineer it we 869 00:31:17,330 --> 00:31:15,059 don't know what the hell we're doing 870 00:31:19,310 --> 00:31:17,340 we're going to blow ourselves up uh you 871 00:31:21,110 --> 00:31:19,320 know this is really what's happening and 872 00:31:23,149 --> 00:31:21,120 I've mentioned this several times before 873 00:31:26,870 --> 00:31:23,159 even if you don't believe in Bob Lazar 874 00:31:30,230 --> 00:31:26,880 Bob Lazar put S4 and Area 51 on the map 875 00:31:31,610 --> 00:31:30,240 along with George Knapp and he brought a 876 00:31:34,250 --> 00:31:31,620 bunch of people in the middle of the 877 00:31:36,889 --> 00:31:34,260 desert at on Wednesday night 7 30 to go 878 00:31:39,289 --> 00:31:36,899 witness UFOs flying how did he know that 879 00:31:41,389 --> 00:31:39,299 at that exact spot at that time of the 880 00:31:43,250 --> 00:31:41,399 week they would see that and he did it 881 00:31:45,110 --> 00:31:43,260 on multiple occasions he brought people 882 00:31:47,570 --> 00:31:45,120 at the end they were having parties and 883 00:31:49,190 --> 00:31:47,580 uh right outside with beers and big 884 00:31:50,750 --> 00:31:49,200 winnebagos and everything like they 885 00:31:52,909 --> 00:31:50,760 didn't care if they got caught they got 886 00:31:55,250 --> 00:31:52,919 really cocky about it but did it 887 00:31:57,950 --> 00:31:55,260 frequently enough that he can prove that 888 00:32:00,049 --> 00:31:57,960 he worked there because he knew exactly 889 00:32:01,850 --> 00:32:00,059 what was taking place there he also 890 00:32:04,250 --> 00:32:01,860 walked into the facility he also walked 891 00:32:06,169 --> 00:32:04,260 an S4 everybody knew him the guards knew 892 00:32:07,789 --> 00:32:06,179 him he brought people with him like hey 893 00:32:10,010 --> 00:32:07,799 how you doing hey everybody knew he was 894 00:32:11,990 --> 00:32:10,020 you can't do that if you don't work 895 00:32:14,570 --> 00:32:12,000 you're talking about a very secure 896 00:32:16,669 --> 00:32:14,580 facility like shot on site very secure 897 00:32:19,010 --> 00:32:16,679 facility how can a man like that walk 898 00:32:20,750 --> 00:32:19,020 into that facility if he is just a liar 899 00:32:23,450 --> 00:32:20,760 and a fake and so on and so forth come 900 00:32:24,830 --> 00:32:23,460 on come on even the janitor has a 901 00:32:27,409 --> 00:32:24,840 clearance in a place like that yeah 902 00:32:29,810 --> 00:32:27,419 there is no there is no civilian quote 903 00:32:32,389 --> 00:32:29,820 unquote everybody's vetted and even if 904 00:32:34,010 --> 00:32:32,399 he was the janitor I don't care the 905 00:32:35,450 --> 00:32:34,020 janitor comes out and says hey guys I'm 906 00:32:37,909 --> 00:32:35,460 working at this really creepy place 907 00:32:39,169 --> 00:32:37,919 we're reverse engineering some [\h__\h] uh 908 00:32:40,850 --> 00:32:39,179 he's like you mentioned he's got some 909 00:32:43,190 --> 00:32:40,860 clearance and the fact he would just 910 00:32:44,510 --> 00:32:43,200 still put Area 51 and S4 on the map 911 00:32:46,490 --> 00:32:44,520 right and he still would have brought 912 00:32:48,049 --> 00:32:46,500 people in the desert to go watch the you 913 00:32:50,630 --> 00:32:48,059 know it still proves that he's telling 914 00:32:54,830 --> 00:32:50,640 the truth and so I'm talking about 915 00:32:56,810 --> 00:32:54,840 Element 115 yeah which in describing its 916 00:32:58,250 --> 00:32:56,820 properties before science officially 917 00:33:04,210 --> 00:32:58,260 announced that it was a thing it's a 918 00:33:08,930 --> 00:33:06,649 spaced out radios weekend crew the other 919 00:33:10,970 --> 00:33:08,940 night and that came up and somebody was 920 00:33:13,490 --> 00:33:10,980 saying in the in the chat section that 921 00:33:15,470 --> 00:33:13,500 well you know when the periodic table of 922 00:33:19,190 --> 00:33:15,480 elements was created by that scientist 923 00:33:21,710 --> 00:33:19,200 it technically went up to 118 and even 924 00:33:23,509 --> 00:33:21,720 years before now I'm not in I'm not in 925 00:33:25,730 --> 00:33:23,519 agreement of that as a way to say Bob 926 00:33:27,710 --> 00:33:25,740 Lazar is just you know I totally think 927 00:33:30,470 --> 00:33:27,720 that the fact that you predicted Element 928 00:33:32,690 --> 00:33:30,480 115 exists that it would make a good 929 00:33:35,029 --> 00:33:32,700 nuclear fuel I mean a lot of these other 930 00:33:37,070 --> 00:33:35,039 elements don't have properties of that 931 00:33:39,049 --> 00:33:37,080 ability you know like you look at look 932 00:33:41,509 --> 00:33:39,059 at all the elements in our world right I 933 00:33:43,549 --> 00:33:41,519 mean carbon is totally different from 934 00:33:46,310 --> 00:33:43,559 Mercury you know they're just night and 935 00:33:48,409 --> 00:33:46,320 day the way you realign things and you 936 00:33:50,029 --> 00:33:48,419 have a totally different substance so 937 00:33:53,330 --> 00:33:50,039 it's not like they're all pretty much 938 00:33:56,630 --> 00:33:53,340 the same where no you know 114 was good 939 00:33:58,789 --> 00:33:56,640 uh nuclear fuel so therefore 115 I mean 940 00:34:00,649 --> 00:33:58,799 essentially anything anytime you could 941 00:34:02,990 --> 00:34:00,659 sort of split an atom you have nuclear 942 00:34:05,930 --> 00:34:03,000 fission but right you know the fact that 943 00:34:07,669 --> 00:34:05,940 he said that it existed he showed some 944 00:34:10,010 --> 00:34:07,679 weird element that you know displayed 945 00:34:12,829 --> 00:34:10,020 those properties maybe that's magic or 946 00:34:15,829 --> 00:34:12,839 just a bit of him faking it I have a 947 00:34:18,050 --> 00:34:15,839 guarded opinion but I do believe Bob 948 00:34:19,909 --> 00:34:18,060 Lazar you know the and I think the 949 00:34:21,050 --> 00:34:19,919 biggest Stones people throw at him is 950 00:34:23,030 --> 00:34:21,060 they say well you can't find his 951 00:34:24,770 --> 00:34:23,040 military record well yeah they wanted to 952 00:34:26,869 --> 00:34:24,780 scrub him because he was talking so they 953 00:34:30,230 --> 00:34:26,879 erased this stuff he's got the pay stubs 954 00:34:31,129 --> 00:34:30,240 and the W-9 tax forms proven that the 955 00:34:33,829 --> 00:34:31,139 guy worked there and the government 956 00:34:35,270 --> 00:34:33,839 collected tax so it's kind of hard to 957 00:34:37,310 --> 00:34:35,280 refute that when you have your 958 00:34:39,290 --> 00:34:37,320 government ID even though the public 959 00:34:41,149 --> 00:34:39,300 can't access it and you can't go say hey 960 00:34:43,609 --> 00:34:41,159 I want to see Bob lazar's work record 961 00:34:45,470 --> 00:34:43,619 they scrubbed him off the map so that's 962 00:34:48,050 --> 00:34:45,480 usually the the main things people try 963 00:34:50,450 --> 00:34:48,060 to slant him for maybe embellishing his 964 00:34:52,129 --> 00:34:50,460 education a bit yeah he probably did you 965 00:34:53,869 --> 00:34:52,139 want to get a job at this place so he 966 00:34:56,149 --> 00:34:53,879 probably beefed it up instead of taking 967 00:34:58,010 --> 00:34:56,159 a course at MIT he got a degree from 968 00:34:59,690 --> 00:34:58,020 there like in the 80s things were 969 00:35:01,849 --> 00:34:59,700 different and people embellished and 970 00:35:04,430 --> 00:35:01,859 they still do today so I I'm not saying 971 00:35:07,250 --> 00:35:04,440 it was 100 truthful but a lot of the 972 00:35:09,109 --> 00:35:07,260 things that he said 33 years ago have 973 00:35:11,270 --> 00:35:09,119 proven to be true how do you do that 974 00:35:13,670 --> 00:35:11,280 you're either incredibly psychic before 975 00:35:15,230 --> 00:35:13,680 you were there right which is which I 976 00:35:17,210 --> 00:35:15,240 think again I think his credibility 977 00:35:20,030 --> 00:35:17,220 speaks for itself if you do the research 978 00:35:21,530 --> 00:35:20,040 anybody who does the research on this on 979 00:35:22,970 --> 00:35:21,540 babazar if you come to a different 980 00:35:25,790 --> 00:35:22,980 conclusion then he was telling the truth 981 00:35:27,530 --> 00:35:25,800 about S4 and these alien craft you're 982 00:35:29,569 --> 00:35:27,540 you're just reaching now you don't want 983 00:35:31,670 --> 00:35:29,579 to believe you just read his book and 984 00:35:34,130 --> 00:35:31,680 get his own account read it in his own 985 00:35:35,109 --> 00:35:34,140 words yeah it was called Dreamland Jake 986 00:35:38,630 --> 00:35:35,119 yeah 987 00:35:42,530 --> 00:35:38,640 every relevant book in the world right 988 00:35:45,290 --> 00:35:42,540 yeah yeah so yeah read his words and 989 00:35:48,710 --> 00:35:47,150 so the next thing I wanted to talk about 990 00:35:49,910 --> 00:35:48,720 actually speaking of prominent people 991 00:35:51,950 --> 00:35:49,920 who have made some pretty bold 992 00:35:53,930 --> 00:35:51,960 statements to scary Nolan 993 00:35:55,250 --> 00:35:53,940 um I have been fanboying over Gary Nolan 994 00:35:57,170 --> 00:35:55,260 since the beginning since I first heard 995 00:35:58,670 --> 00:35:57,180 about him and I mean fanboying 996 00:36:01,490 --> 00:35:58,680 um but Gary Nolan is in case if you 997 00:36:03,290 --> 00:36:01,500 don't know he's an American immunologist 998 00:36:06,170 --> 00:36:03,300 um academic inventor and business 999 00:36:09,470 --> 00:36:06,180 executive he holds the um the Rockford 1000 00:36:11,810 --> 00:36:09,480 and carlotto a Harris Professor endowed 1001 00:36:13,270 --> 00:36:11,820 chair in the department of pathology at 1002 00:36:17,450 --> 00:36:13,280 Stanford University School of Medicine 1003 00:36:19,730 --> 00:36:17,460 talk again we're talking very reputable 1004 00:36:20,930 --> 00:36:19,740 individual and he made it he did an 1005 00:36:23,030 --> 00:36:20,940 interview with Tucker Carlson a while 1006 00:36:24,470 --> 00:36:23,040 back and in an interview he mentioned he 1007 00:36:26,270 --> 00:36:24,480 made a comment Tucker Carlson asked him 1008 00:36:28,250 --> 00:36:26,280 a question is there any evidence in the 1009 00:36:31,609 --> 00:36:28,260 in the 100 cases this is the case that 1010 00:36:33,710 --> 00:36:31,619 he had with investigating the dod 1011 00:36:35,450 --> 00:36:33,720 um the the health effects of these these 1012 00:36:37,069 --> 00:36:35,460 phenomena with human beings 1013 00:36:39,530 --> 00:36:37,079 um working with the dod 1014 00:36:42,650 --> 00:36:39,540 is there any evidence in the 100 cases 1015 00:36:45,050 --> 00:36:42,660 DOD study of UFO injuries that you have 1016 00:36:47,270 --> 00:36:45,060 looked at where human beings were harmed 1017 00:36:49,190 --> 00:36:47,280 on purpose and Gary Nolan just straight 1018 00:36:52,730 --> 00:36:49,200 out says no 1019 00:36:54,109 --> 00:36:52,740 no so the dod is aware and and this is 1020 00:36:56,150 --> 00:36:54,119 not just the only statement that I want 1021 00:36:58,430 --> 00:36:56,160 to pull because the dod also has been 1022 00:36:59,990 --> 00:36:58,440 investigating the phenomena after 1023 00:37:01,310 --> 00:37:00,000 um after Project Blue Book they said 1024 00:37:02,569 --> 00:37:01,320 they weren't but they were secretly 1025 00:37:05,089 --> 00:37:02,579 investigating it and they haven't found 1026 00:37:07,550 --> 00:37:05,099 it and all that from what what has been 1027 00:37:09,470 --> 00:37:07,560 said there have been no direct conflict 1028 00:37:11,569 --> 00:37:09,480 with UAP at least 1029 00:37:13,910 --> 00:37:11,579 um in an intentional way especially 1030 00:37:15,109 --> 00:37:13,920 unprompted from what I understand do you 1031 00:37:17,089 --> 00:37:15,119 guys hear anything different or how do 1032 00:37:19,370 --> 00:37:17,099 you feel about that 1033 00:37:21,950 --> 00:37:19,380 Louie I'll let you go first moment yeah 1034 00:37:24,589 --> 00:37:21,960 I don't again the key word being you 1035 00:37:26,450 --> 00:37:24,599 know intentionally injured 1036 00:37:29,030 --> 00:37:26,460 um again like a lot of people have had 1037 00:37:31,069 --> 00:37:29,040 experiences and encounters that cause 1038 00:37:33,230 --> 00:37:31,079 physical pain Calvin Parker's the first 1039 00:37:34,970 --> 00:37:33,240 one that comes to mind right like he's 1040 00:37:36,230 --> 00:37:34,980 you know his story he had an alien shove 1041 00:37:38,390 --> 00:37:36,240 their fingers up his throat and he 1042 00:37:39,950 --> 00:37:38,400 started to bleed like up his nose and 1043 00:37:43,010 --> 00:37:39,960 down his throat I think he said you know 1044 00:37:45,130 --> 00:37:43,020 some crazy I mean yeah it's terrifying 1045 00:37:47,630 --> 00:37:45,140 to even think about but if that happened 1046 00:37:49,849 --> 00:37:47,640 that's not and again maybe that's not 1047 00:37:52,370 --> 00:37:49,859 intentional maybe that's just you know 1048 00:37:54,170 --> 00:37:52,380 when a gorilla examines a mouse and 1049 00:37:55,970 --> 00:37:54,180 happens to rip it in pieces he didn't 1050 00:37:58,730 --> 00:37:55,980 mean to do it either it just doesn't 1051 00:38:00,770 --> 00:37:58,740 know his own strength right so I think 1052 00:38:02,630 --> 00:38:00,780 that that's the key word in that but I 1053 00:38:05,829 --> 00:38:02,640 do also think that there is a somewhat 1054 00:38:08,690 --> 00:38:05,839 of a benevolence more yes than no 1055 00:38:10,250 --> 00:38:08,700 they're not here to hurt us you know on 1056 00:38:11,990 --> 00:38:10,260 purpose it's not that kind of not that 1057 00:38:14,930 --> 00:38:12,000 kind of an encounter yes some people 1058 00:38:16,790 --> 00:38:14,940 have negative experiences painful ones 1059 00:38:19,790 --> 00:38:16,800 um you know some are very evil they feel 1060 00:38:21,950 --> 00:38:19,800 it they entity is like trying to scare 1061 00:38:24,230 --> 00:38:21,960 them intentionally but I think for the 1062 00:38:25,970 --> 00:38:24,240 most part we're just afraid and you know 1063 00:38:28,069 --> 00:38:25,980 we interviewed Reverend Carter Michael 1064 00:38:30,050 --> 00:38:28,079 Carter last week right and he's had all 1065 00:38:31,790 --> 00:38:30,060 kind of experiences and he said I'm 1066 00:38:34,069 --> 00:38:31,800 scared of these things but not because 1067 00:38:35,329 --> 00:38:34,079 of what they did to me just because I 1068 00:38:38,030 --> 00:38:35,339 could turn around and they could be 1069 00:38:39,470 --> 00:38:38,040 there that's scary right when I heard 1070 00:38:41,630 --> 00:38:39,480 him say that I was like wow that's how I 1071 00:38:42,829 --> 00:38:41,640 feel it's just yeah not that they hurt 1072 00:38:44,390 --> 00:38:42,839 me but like they could literally show up 1073 00:38:45,650 --> 00:38:44,400 any sometimes at night and in his 1074 00:38:48,290 --> 00:38:45,660 experience where he was afraid to fall 1075 00:38:50,990 --> 00:38:48,300 asleep I relate to that because there 1076 00:38:52,730 --> 00:38:51,000 still is he still is afraid so am I and 1077 00:38:56,390 --> 00:38:52,740 I haven't had an experience direct 1078 00:38:58,609 --> 00:38:56,400 contact experience for like 10 years now 1079 00:38:59,930 --> 00:38:58,619 so like for me it's like it's not that 1080 00:39:01,310 --> 00:38:59,940 they can come but there are times where 1081 00:39:03,349 --> 00:39:01,320 I lay down in bed and I have this vision 1082 00:39:04,849 --> 00:39:03,359 of their long fingers and their butt 1083 00:39:06,109 --> 00:39:04,859 they're just like walking into my room 1084 00:39:07,849 --> 00:39:06,119 and I'm like oh my gosh look it could 1085 00:39:10,190 --> 00:39:07,859 happen it could happen and I'm talking 1086 00:39:12,109 --> 00:39:10,200 to this all the time not like once in a 1087 00:39:13,609 --> 00:39:12,119 while like daily every night that I'm 1088 00:39:15,710 --> 00:39:13,619 sleeping I sleep really late sometimes 1089 00:39:18,290 --> 00:39:15,720 and I have that fear so I completely 1090 00:39:20,630 --> 00:39:18,300 relate to that completely it's trauma 1091 00:39:22,790 --> 00:39:20,640 right that's you're showing the effects 1092 00:39:25,310 --> 00:39:22,800 of lingering trauma yeah it's still in 1093 00:39:27,589 --> 00:39:25,320 how do you process that kind of thing I 1094 00:39:30,290 --> 00:39:27,599 don't know and we you know we often talk 1095 00:39:33,290 --> 00:39:30,300 like the term alien is overused and 1096 00:39:37,010 --> 00:39:33,300 comes with a bunch of baggage but the 1097 00:39:38,510 --> 00:39:37,020 experience is alien to us it's it's not 1098 00:39:41,210 --> 00:39:38,520 something that we've experienced before 1099 00:39:43,910 --> 00:39:41,220 it's not something that is normal it 1100 00:39:45,770 --> 00:39:43,920 doesn't fit our you know understanding 1101 00:39:48,230 --> 00:39:45,780 of the world understanding of ourselves 1102 00:39:49,550 --> 00:39:48,240 these things are very invasive in the 1103 00:39:51,109 --> 00:39:49,560 sense that they just show up and you 1104 00:39:52,609 --> 00:39:51,119 don't have a choice you're going to come 1105 00:39:54,109 --> 00:39:52,619 with them you're going to comply right 1106 00:39:55,730 --> 00:39:54,119 they're going to tell you it's okay but 1107 00:39:58,370 --> 00:39:55,740 you know it's you're still taken out of 1108 00:40:01,010 --> 00:39:58,380 your element to this alien 1109 00:40:03,109 --> 00:40:01,020 experience that you're not used to and 1110 00:40:04,490 --> 00:40:03,119 that's what you know it encompasses a 1111 00:40:06,710 --> 00:40:04,500 lot of things when you're saying the 1112 00:40:07,849 --> 00:40:06,720 interaction between you and these 1113 00:40:10,430 --> 00:40:07,859 entities 1114 00:40:11,870 --> 00:40:10,440 it's not common you know it's it's not 1115 00:40:13,730 --> 00:40:11,880 normal so it's gonna make you feel 1116 00:40:15,470 --> 00:40:13,740 uneasy because it's like you know you're 1117 00:40:17,450 --> 00:40:15,480 afraid of that experience 1118 00:40:19,190 --> 00:40:17,460 and some people have good positive 1119 00:40:21,890 --> 00:40:19,200 experiences with these entities some 1120 00:40:23,990 --> 00:40:21,900 people don't it depends on how how you 1121 00:40:25,849 --> 00:40:24,000 feel but I think it's very important 1122 00:40:27,950 --> 00:40:25,859 that you know people address that like 1123 00:40:29,990 --> 00:40:27,960 you know some people have mentioned 1124 00:40:31,670 --> 00:40:30,000 being tucked back into bed 1125 00:40:33,890 --> 00:40:31,680 you know like these entities don't mean 1126 00:40:34,970 --> 00:40:33,900 many harm they're right going above and 1127 00:40:36,890 --> 00:40:34,980 beyond make sure the person's 1128 00:40:39,470 --> 00:40:36,900 comfortable they always return the 1129 00:40:41,870 --> 00:40:39,480 person fairly unharmed right they might 1130 00:40:43,550 --> 00:40:41,880 be prodded and poked with needles or 1131 00:40:45,170 --> 00:40:43,560 something but you know people come back 1132 00:40:47,089 --> 00:40:45,180 I mean there's horror stories where like 1133 00:40:48,829 --> 00:40:47,099 people mentioning their eyes being taken 1134 00:40:51,170 --> 00:40:48,839 out right oh my God it's a pretty bad 1135 00:40:53,630 --> 00:40:51,180 some pretty bad ones and then I put back 1136 00:40:55,970 --> 00:40:53,640 in that's just oh gross me out but um 1137 00:40:57,230 --> 00:40:55,980 you know people deter their technology 1138 00:40:59,569 --> 00:40:57,240 though it's a testament of what they're 1139 00:41:01,730 --> 00:40:59,579 capable of right yes but also they seem 1140 00:41:03,170 --> 00:41:01,740 not to have an understanding of pain so 1141 00:41:04,550 --> 00:41:03,180 when they do procedures they're just 1142 00:41:06,349 --> 00:41:04,560 like it's okay it's okay but it's 1143 00:41:08,750 --> 00:41:06,359 painful as hell right don't worry it 1144 00:41:10,970 --> 00:41:08,760 won't hurt you and then ah yeah all of a 1145 00:41:20,290 --> 00:41:10,980 sudden surprised oh my God it hurts a 1146 00:41:23,750 --> 00:41:22,130 there is a lot of ways to take it 1147 00:41:25,190 --> 00:41:23,760 there's a there's an abduction uh case 1148 00:41:27,470 --> 00:41:25,200 that I'm gonna kind of go into on what 1149 00:41:29,390 --> 00:41:27,480 one of these days um by from someone 1150 00:41:32,390 --> 00:41:29,400 called Linda Porter 1151 00:41:33,470 --> 00:41:32,400 and Linda Porter she let me see if I can 1152 00:41:36,950 --> 00:41:33,480 pull up and I'm just going to mention 1153 00:41:38,210 --> 00:41:36,960 this briefly she was from uh Covina 1154 00:41:40,730 --> 00:41:38,220 California I believe this is an 1155 00:41:41,990 --> 00:41:40,740 abduction account from 1963 she was 17 1156 00:41:43,670 --> 00:41:42,000 years old when she first started having 1157 00:41:46,069 --> 00:41:43,680 encounters but she had them throughout 1158 00:41:48,829 --> 00:41:46,079 her life for like 20 years or more I 1159 00:41:50,810 --> 00:41:48,839 believe but she said and this is a I I 1160 00:41:52,250 --> 00:41:50,820 don't want to get too much into this but 1161 00:41:54,650 --> 00:41:52,260 she said over the years she was she had 1162 00:41:56,990 --> 00:41:54,660 multiple encounters a lot of them 1163 00:41:59,569 --> 00:41:57,000 um into her 20s and they slow down kind 1164 00:42:01,730 --> 00:41:59,579 of throughout her later in life but she 1165 00:42:04,670 --> 00:42:01,740 said she was brought to a room one time 1166 00:42:05,810 --> 00:42:04,680 where they had these cylinders that were 1167 00:42:08,150 --> 00:42:05,820 illuminated 1168 00:42:10,670 --> 00:42:08,160 and in those container those cylinders 1169 00:42:13,190 --> 00:42:10,680 were human vessels that's what they they 1170 00:42:15,349 --> 00:42:13,200 did the beings called them these are 1171 00:42:18,230 --> 00:42:15,359 like vessels for the soul 1172 00:42:20,569 --> 00:42:18,240 and their interest in humanity from from 1173 00:42:22,910 --> 00:42:20,579 her experience was that they were 1174 00:42:26,030 --> 00:42:22,920 interested in breeding with us because 1175 00:42:28,790 --> 00:42:26,040 we have a soul and that Soul when we die 1176 00:42:31,130 --> 00:42:28,800 continues to live on afterwards and they 1177 00:42:33,470 --> 00:42:31,140 don't have that whatever they are they 1178 00:42:35,810 --> 00:42:33,480 don't have a soul so they wanted that 1179 00:42:37,550 --> 00:42:35,820 and they in order to get that they 1180 00:42:38,750 --> 00:42:37,560 needed to breathe kind of mix their DNA 1181 00:42:40,849 --> 00:42:38,760 with our DNA so they've been tampering 1182 00:42:44,750 --> 00:42:40,859 with our DNA mixing it with theirs as 1183 00:42:47,870 --> 00:42:44,760 well in order to produce a a breed of 1184 00:42:50,569 --> 00:42:47,880 hybrids that have a soul but is still 1185 00:42:52,790 --> 00:42:50,579 them as well and there's an entire 1186 00:42:53,630 --> 00:42:52,800 theory behind that but and this is not 1187 00:42:54,950 --> 00:42:53,640 you're not the only person who's 1188 00:42:56,930 --> 00:42:54,960 mentioned this that's an abduction 1189 00:42:58,730 --> 00:42:56,940 phenomena there's a there's a there's a 1190 00:43:00,589 --> 00:42:58,740 writer an author who is a professor as 1191 00:43:02,329 --> 00:43:00,599 well who studied the abduction phenomena 1192 00:43:03,890 --> 00:43:02,339 and he has the and he has a book called 1193 00:43:07,250 --> 00:43:03,900 alien agenda 1194 00:43:08,690 --> 00:43:07,260 great the the Gray's agenda or something 1195 00:43:11,150 --> 00:43:08,700 like that where he speaks about the 1196 00:43:14,030 --> 00:43:11,160 grace and their agenda with with with 1197 00:43:16,550 --> 00:43:14,040 creating a hybrid race of beings that is 1198 00:43:18,770 --> 00:43:16,560 essentially they're just like us they 1199 00:43:19,790 --> 00:43:18,780 look just like us they're you can't tell 1200 00:43:22,550 --> 00:43:19,800 the difference 1201 00:43:24,050 --> 00:43:22,560 but the purpose he feels is ominous it's 1202 00:43:25,309 --> 00:43:24,060 more ominous not necessarily a global 1203 00:43:27,530 --> 00:43:25,319 takeover where they're going to kill us 1204 00:43:28,790 --> 00:43:27,540 all but more so along the lines of what 1205 00:43:30,650 --> 00:43:28,800 she's saying where they want something 1206 00:43:33,470 --> 00:43:30,660 that we have which is why they don't 1207 00:43:35,510 --> 00:43:33,480 hurt us they need us alive because they 1208 00:43:38,450 --> 00:43:35,520 need our genetic material to mix with us 1209 00:43:39,829 --> 00:43:38,460 to create a being that has a soul what 1210 00:43:40,790 --> 00:43:39,839 do you guys think about something like 1211 00:43:43,370 --> 00:43:40,800 that 1212 00:43:44,630 --> 00:43:43,380 I think the soul and DNA are separate I 1213 00:43:47,210 --> 00:43:44,640 can see there being benefits for 1214 00:43:48,890 --> 00:43:47,220 breeding again maybe they can't 1215 00:43:50,870 --> 00:43:48,900 reproduce anymore they've contaminated 1216 00:43:53,390 --> 00:43:50,880 their genome there's evidence of that on 1217 00:43:55,370 --> 00:43:53,400 Earth already with the male Y chromosome 1218 00:43:57,710 --> 00:43:55,380 even in like tigers there's more female 1219 00:43:59,750 --> 00:43:57,720 tigers than males it's literally dying 1220 00:44:01,490 --> 00:43:59,760 out they think it's because of DDT 1221 00:44:04,849 --> 00:44:01,500 pesticides that were used in the 1222 00:44:06,710 --> 00:44:04,859 whenever 50s 60s 70s that it got into 1223 00:44:09,050 --> 00:44:06,720 the food chain right from the smallest 1224 00:44:10,910 --> 00:44:09,060 bugs eating grass and then all the way 1225 00:44:13,069 --> 00:44:10,920 up to the mammals and everything else so 1226 00:44:15,349 --> 00:44:13,079 I think soul and DNA are different 1227 00:44:16,970 --> 00:44:15,359 because otherwise when you passed away 1228 00:44:19,370 --> 00:44:16,980 if they did a DNA test it'd be a 1229 00:44:22,370 --> 00:44:19,380 noticeable change in your DNA right so 1230 00:44:24,589 --> 00:44:22,380 DNA I think is separate from living 1231 00:44:26,390 --> 00:44:24,599 cells doing their function I mean the 1232 00:44:28,670 --> 00:44:26,400 DNA is contained within that but DNA is 1233 00:44:30,230 --> 00:44:28,680 like the recipe everything else is kind 1234 00:44:32,809 --> 00:44:30,240 of like the moving Parts on the train 1235 00:44:34,670 --> 00:44:32,819 and I think I think everything has a 1236 00:44:37,309 --> 00:44:34,680 soul because if it was just a 1237 00:44:39,530 --> 00:44:37,319 civilization that died and that was it 1238 00:44:41,569 --> 00:44:39,540 and nothing carried forward no knowledge 1239 00:44:44,089 --> 00:44:41,579 or whatever I can't see them getting 1240 00:44:46,370 --> 00:44:44,099 Advanced enough within their lifespans 1241 00:44:48,710 --> 00:44:46,380 if there wasn't some other kind of help 1242 00:44:50,510 --> 00:44:48,720 or ability to I mean let's be honest 1243 00:44:54,050 --> 00:44:50,520 Mankind's greatest inventions came from 1244 00:44:55,970 --> 00:44:54,060 inspiration people were in spirit they 1245 00:44:58,190 --> 00:44:55,980 were meditating they were conditioning 1246 00:45:00,109 --> 00:44:58,200 this Consciousness so how would you get 1247 00:45:01,370 --> 00:45:00,119 that advanced if you just lived X number 1248 00:45:04,550 --> 00:45:01,380 of years and died and that was that 1249 00:45:06,470 --> 00:45:04,560 right I mean again because my belief is 1250 00:45:09,829 --> 00:45:06,480 that we do have the ability to access 1251 00:45:11,690 --> 00:45:09,839 this it has made us better you know some 1252 00:45:13,849 --> 00:45:11,700 great minds like Tesla and there's been 1253 00:45:15,650 --> 00:45:13,859 a lot of and just magical people that 1254 00:45:17,210 --> 00:45:15,660 have done things that like in their 1255 00:45:19,730 --> 00:45:17,220 lifetime that some people haven't done 1256 00:45:22,609 --> 00:45:19,740 in hundreds of years so my personal 1257 00:45:26,030 --> 00:45:22,619 opinion I believe soul is separate from 1258 00:45:28,730 --> 00:45:26,040 DNA soul is from God DNA is from like 1259 00:45:31,069 --> 00:45:28,740 nature it's just uh what animal you 1260 00:45:32,870 --> 00:45:31,079 happen to be It's Your Vessel but I 1261 00:45:36,410 --> 00:45:32,880 think the soul you can't create it 1262 00:45:38,870 --> 00:45:36,420 because it didn't come from creation it 1263 00:45:40,490 --> 00:45:38,880 came from the Creator so let me let me 1264 00:45:42,829 --> 00:45:40,500 let me add a little bit to this to this 1265 00:45:45,950 --> 00:45:42,839 um this scenario here 1266 00:45:47,990 --> 00:45:45,960 what if we are just the the DNA that 1267 00:45:50,089 --> 00:45:48,000 creates us our physical body our 1268 00:45:52,490 --> 00:45:50,099 physical being what if we are just the 1269 00:45:55,069 --> 00:45:52,500 vessel for the soul then wouldn't it 1270 00:45:56,569 --> 00:45:55,079 make sense to if you were an intelligent 1271 00:45:57,650 --> 00:45:56,579 race that doesn't have a soul for 1272 00:45:59,150 --> 00:45:57,660 example and just again it's just 1273 00:46:01,790 --> 00:45:59,160 hypothetical this is a really farther 1274 00:46:03,770 --> 00:46:01,800 hypothetical what if you just needed a 1275 00:46:05,690 --> 00:46:03,780 vessel that was able to contain a soul 1276 00:46:06,950 --> 00:46:05,700 because during Linda Porter's abductions 1277 00:46:10,550 --> 00:46:06,960 that's essentially what she said was 1278 00:46:13,309 --> 00:46:10,560 being done they were they were swapping 1279 00:46:15,290 --> 00:46:13,319 Souls into these vessels 1280 00:46:17,450 --> 00:46:15,300 and it wasn't that they were creating a 1281 00:46:19,309 --> 00:46:17,460 vessel that had a soul they were 1282 00:46:21,829 --> 00:46:19,319 creating a vessel that could contain a 1283 00:46:24,230 --> 00:46:21,839 soul yeah you upload or transfer that's 1284 00:46:25,430 --> 00:46:24,240 kind of like the search for the uh what 1285 00:46:27,530 --> 00:46:25,440 do they call that like the the Magic 1286 00:46:29,690 --> 00:46:27,540 Fountain endless the Fountain of Youth 1287 00:46:31,490 --> 00:46:29,700 right so that if your body was decaying 1288 00:46:33,230 --> 00:46:31,500 and dying you could then transport that 1289 00:46:35,930 --> 00:46:33,240 into some other living being that makes 1290 00:46:38,809 --> 00:46:35,940 more sense to me but I don't think the 1291 00:46:40,970 --> 00:46:38,819 soul first of all I believe all living 1292 00:46:42,710 --> 00:46:40,980 things are sentient they have that 1293 00:46:44,809 --> 00:46:42,720 energy from you know the consciousness 1294 00:46:47,630 --> 00:46:44,819 of the Creator so I don't think there is 1295 00:46:49,609 --> 00:46:47,640 anything that is life less and even to 1296 00:46:52,069 --> 00:46:49,619 this day we cannot make life even when 1297 00:46:53,990 --> 00:46:52,079 we do hybrid stuff or you know in vitro 1298 00:46:56,030 --> 00:46:54,000 we're still taking living cells right 1299 00:46:58,490 --> 00:46:56,040 and other living cells and breeding them 1300 00:47:01,190 --> 00:46:58,500 together we can't take we're taking a 1301 00:47:03,230 --> 00:47:01,200 paper in your shoe and make a dog we're 1302 00:47:05,150 --> 00:47:03,240 not that that you would be interesting 1303 00:47:06,650 --> 00:47:05,160 explain the role of God that's my 1304 00:47:06,930 --> 00:47:06,660 opinion I'm a spirit would you name them 1305 00:47:10,690 --> 00:47:06,940 Nike 1306 00:47:12,890 --> 00:47:10,700 [Laughter] 1307 00:47:14,809 --> 00:47:12,900 what about you Jason what do you think 1308 00:47:17,089 --> 00:47:14,819 what do you think care about this well 1309 00:47:18,470 --> 00:47:17,099 there's two I have two theories uh one 1310 00:47:21,349 --> 00:47:18,480 of them is that they're trying to do an 1311 00:47:24,230 --> 00:47:21,359 integration with us that it's important 1312 00:47:26,270 --> 00:47:24,240 because if we're going to join them in 1313 00:47:27,530 --> 00:47:26,280 whatever it is the progress the next 1314 00:47:28,910 --> 00:47:27,540 thing they keep telling us raise your 1315 00:47:30,950 --> 00:47:28,920 Consciousness raise your Consciousness 1316 00:47:33,589 --> 00:47:30,960 we hear that over and over again and 1317 00:47:35,390 --> 00:47:33,599 study it quite a bit and 1318 00:47:36,890 --> 00:47:35,400 the issue is like why is that so 1319 00:47:38,870 --> 00:47:36,900 important it's because it's important 1320 00:47:40,370 --> 00:47:38,880 only to fly these crafts because these 1321 00:47:43,010 --> 00:47:40,380 crafts operate on Consciousness 1322 00:47:45,589 --> 00:47:43,020 Consciousness yeah yeah and they move 1323 00:47:47,030 --> 00:47:45,599 like they're conscious they almost have 1324 00:47:49,069 --> 00:47:47,040 a feel like the pilots say like it's 1325 00:47:51,650 --> 00:47:49,079 almost like it looks at them even though 1326 00:47:53,210 --> 00:47:51,660 there's no windows there's nothing but 1327 00:47:55,250 --> 00:47:53,220 they feel the consciousness of this 1328 00:47:57,589 --> 00:47:55,260 craft just checking them out they're 1329 00:47:59,510 --> 00:47:57,599 also precognitive because they like what 1330 00:48:02,150 --> 00:47:59,520 right with with um 1331 00:48:04,430 --> 00:48:02,160 um Ryan Graves and well I'm sorry with 1332 00:48:06,170 --> 00:48:04,440 uh David fravor Commander David favor he 1333 00:48:08,750 --> 00:48:06,180 said they were at his cap point you know 1334 00:48:10,910 --> 00:48:08,760 and the master point right it was only 1335 00:48:12,170 --> 00:48:10,920 known by them they didn't that's 1336 00:48:15,109 --> 00:48:12,180 classified information that was only 1337 00:48:17,390 --> 00:48:15,119 told by them so that how did it know 1338 00:48:18,829 --> 00:48:17,400 that how did it know that part of the 1339 00:48:21,710 --> 00:48:18,839 trickster element that speed that that 1340 00:48:23,809 --> 00:48:21,720 people have mentioned before yeah on the 1341 00:48:25,790 --> 00:48:23,819 ground will witness a UFO and say like 1342 00:48:28,309 --> 00:48:25,800 it's as if it knew that we were watching 1343 00:48:30,710 --> 00:48:28,319 it like it came closer to us right or 1344 00:48:33,230 --> 00:48:30,720 came right above us or or whatever and 1345 00:48:35,510 --> 00:48:33,240 that is crazy because if it's at that 1346 00:48:37,609 --> 00:48:35,520 point it's almost like a sensitive nerve 1347 00:48:38,930 --> 00:48:37,619 that picks up on any thought or anybody 1348 00:48:41,450 --> 00:48:38,940 looking at it 1349 00:48:43,250 --> 00:48:41,460 that's that's amazing even Kathleen 1350 00:48:46,210 --> 00:48:43,260 Martin when we spoke to her she said 1351 00:48:49,609 --> 00:48:46,220 that her Aunt Betty Hill 1352 00:48:51,829 --> 00:48:49,619 had asked about uh 1353 00:48:53,569 --> 00:48:51,839 you know can you find us like how do you 1354 00:48:56,170 --> 00:48:53,579 find us she goes in the little entrance 1355 00:48:58,790 --> 00:48:56,180 he said we can find anybody anytime oh 1356 00:49:00,349 --> 00:48:58,800 they know yeah they know where you are 1357 00:49:02,809 --> 00:49:00,359 like you know some people say you know I 1358 00:49:04,309 --> 00:49:02,819 live in New York uh and then all of a 1359 00:49:06,170 --> 00:49:04,319 sudden you go to California you get an 1360 00:49:08,510 --> 00:49:06,180 experience in California the same as you 1361 00:49:10,609 --> 00:49:08,520 do in New York how is that possible how 1362 00:49:13,430 --> 00:49:10,619 do they know that you're there they just 1363 00:49:15,349 --> 00:49:13,440 do right that's crazy that that to me 1364 00:49:17,150 --> 00:49:15,359 blows my mind like that it just means 1365 00:49:19,069 --> 00:49:17,160 the Consciousness or 1366 00:49:20,930 --> 00:49:19,079 you know this free will that we all 1367 00:49:22,430 --> 00:49:20,940 think that we have maybe it's not so 1368 00:49:24,109 --> 00:49:22,440 much free will because at any point in 1369 00:49:25,790 --> 00:49:24,119 time they could come and just interrupt 1370 00:49:27,650 --> 00:49:25,800 that you know that's the part that's 1371 00:49:29,210 --> 00:49:27,660 most disturbing for people is that the 1372 00:49:30,829 --> 00:49:29,220 fact that it's been interrupted that 1373 00:49:32,990 --> 00:49:30,839 somehow there's a violation that took 1374 00:49:35,450 --> 00:49:33,000 place because I wasn't in charge anymore 1375 00:49:37,370 --> 00:49:35,460 right I couldn't control the situation 1376 00:49:39,410 --> 00:49:37,380 it just happened to me and a lot of 1377 00:49:42,349 --> 00:49:39,420 people uh look at it as almost the same 1378 00:49:44,390 --> 00:49:42,359 effect as rape right a violation of of 1379 00:49:46,010 --> 00:49:44,400 the person violation of your rights the 1380 00:49:47,750 --> 00:49:46,020 infringed on it and did whatever the 1381 00:49:50,870 --> 00:49:47,760 hell they wanted to you and there's 1382 00:49:52,550 --> 00:49:50,880 nothing you can do about it right uh 1383 00:49:54,349 --> 00:49:52,560 and then the other one's like obviously 1384 00:49:56,270 --> 00:49:54,359 if we're going to join them uh we would 1385 00:49:59,270 --> 00:49:56,280 need to physically 1386 00:50:00,890 --> 00:49:59,280 match at some point right uh people 1387 00:50:02,930 --> 00:50:00,900 saying oh they're hybrids what have they 1388 00:50:04,670 --> 00:50:02,940 created us to begin with right right so 1389 00:50:06,410 --> 00:50:04,680 we keep saying oh they're making hybrids 1390 00:50:09,290 --> 00:50:06,420 well what if the hybrid is this another 1391 00:50:10,430 --> 00:50:09,300 part of the plan right exactly like we 1392 00:50:12,650 --> 00:50:10,440 were the first part now they're 1393 00:50:14,750 --> 00:50:12,660 overseeing it and you know the same way 1394 00:50:17,089 --> 00:50:14,760 that they're you know you're tagging 1395 00:50:18,530 --> 00:50:17,099 animals and and keeping knowledge of 1396 00:50:20,990 --> 00:50:18,540 what they're eating where the foot 1397 00:50:23,750 --> 00:50:21,000 patterns are and you know what uh their 1398 00:50:25,790 --> 00:50:23,760 hobbies are uh basically they're doing 1399 00:50:28,730 --> 00:50:25,800 that to us and there's a select few 1400 00:50:29,990 --> 00:50:28,740 maybe yourself included sir uh that are 1401 00:50:31,309 --> 00:50:30,000 going through that you know there's 1402 00:50:32,690 --> 00:50:31,319 something about your genetics or 1403 00:50:35,150 --> 00:50:32,700 something about your spirit or something 1404 00:50:37,849 --> 00:50:35,160 about you maybe uh you know your your 1405 00:50:40,250 --> 00:50:37,859 awareness of things uh that they're 1406 00:50:42,589 --> 00:50:40,260 attracted to and that's that's what they 1407 00:50:43,309 --> 00:50:42,599 do well Gary Nolan and I want to there's 1408 00:50:45,950 --> 00:50:43,319 a couple things I want to mention 1409 00:50:48,290 --> 00:50:45,960 there's a there's a girl who I read this 1410 00:50:49,430 --> 00:50:48,300 abduction account of a girl who I don't 1411 00:50:51,049 --> 00:50:49,440 want to give the long drawn out version 1412 00:50:53,930 --> 00:50:51,059 but she essentially was taken into Woods 1413 00:50:55,430 --> 00:50:53,940 by a a female 1414 00:50:56,809 --> 00:50:55,440 um she was on a she was with her family 1415 00:50:59,089 --> 00:50:56,819 at first but then was taken into the 1416 00:51:00,650 --> 00:50:59,099 woods and she was taken into a cave and 1417 00:51:01,790 --> 00:51:00,660 this woman was really nice to her very 1418 00:51:03,349 --> 00:51:01,800 nice there was a bunch of people around 1419 00:51:05,329 --> 00:51:03,359 they were all nice to her they prepared 1420 00:51:06,530 --> 00:51:05,339 a meal for her they tried to get her she 1421 00:51:08,030 --> 00:51:06,540 was upset she wasn't very comfortable 1422 00:51:09,230 --> 00:51:08,040 with it they tried to give her a meal 1423 00:51:10,849 --> 00:51:09,240 that she liked they asked what she 1424 00:51:12,470 --> 00:51:10,859 wanted but she just wasn't feeling it 1425 00:51:14,089 --> 00:51:12,480 and eventually they brought in a little 1426 00:51:16,130 --> 00:51:14,099 boy and they tried to get her to mate 1427 00:51:17,690 --> 00:51:16,140 essentially mate with this boy they try 1428 00:51:19,430 --> 00:51:17,700 to get her to like him to get him to be 1429 00:51:21,530 --> 00:51:19,440 nice to her get him to like you know 1430 00:51:22,910 --> 00:51:21,540 they just she just wasn't having she was 1431 00:51:24,290 --> 00:51:22,920 resisting and she was resisting them 1432 00:51:25,130 --> 00:51:24,300 until eventually she just wanted to go 1433 00:51:26,870 --> 00:51:25,140 home 1434 00:51:28,790 --> 00:51:26,880 and the one girl 1435 00:51:31,549 --> 00:51:28,800 the one lady that was there was upset 1436 00:51:33,349 --> 00:51:31,559 she was angry and she grabbed her and 1437 00:51:35,089 --> 00:51:33,359 she said this and the girl said she put 1438 00:51:37,910 --> 00:51:35,099 some pressure on her chest really really 1439 00:51:40,609 --> 00:51:37,920 hard and another female that was there 1440 00:51:41,870 --> 00:51:40,619 said don't hurt her let her go do not 1441 00:51:44,270 --> 00:51:41,880 hurt her 1442 00:51:47,510 --> 00:51:44,280 we can let her go but no matter where 1443 00:51:49,910 --> 00:51:47,520 she goes we'll always find her 1444 00:51:52,490 --> 00:51:49,920 like that was this girl's experience 1445 00:51:55,250 --> 00:51:52,500 when she was a little girl now that's a 1446 00:51:56,809 --> 00:51:55,260 who knows what intelligence that was you 1447 00:51:59,210 --> 00:51:56,819 can't ascribe that to any particular 1448 00:52:01,609 --> 00:51:59,220 intelligence but if it is related in 1449 00:52:03,230 --> 00:52:01,619 some way to the abduction phenomena it 1450 00:52:04,549 --> 00:52:03,240 does say something about the fact that 1451 00:52:07,490 --> 00:52:04,559 we don't have control over what happens 1452 00:52:09,650 --> 00:52:07,500 to us ultimately we don't have full 1453 00:52:10,970 --> 00:52:09,660 autonomy in this world in this life and 1454 00:52:12,470 --> 00:52:10,980 I think that that's essentially what 1455 00:52:14,270 --> 00:52:12,480 that's part of the fear that the 1456 00:52:16,790 --> 00:52:14,280 government has in telling us what's 1457 00:52:19,069 --> 00:52:16,800 going on it's not only that they don't 1458 00:52:21,230 --> 00:52:19,079 fully understand it's that from what 1459 00:52:22,309 --> 00:52:21,240 they do understand it doesn't feel good 1460 00:52:24,410 --> 00:52:22,319 to them either 1461 00:52:26,030 --> 00:52:24,420 and so we don't we're we're all trying 1462 00:52:27,589 --> 00:52:26,040 to Fumble around and figure out where I 1463 00:52:30,170 --> 00:52:27,599 mean it's a confusing mess because 1464 00:52:34,010 --> 00:52:30,180 there's there's everything from fairies 1465 00:52:37,370 --> 00:52:34,020 and Bigfoot to nuts and ball to AP craft 1466 00:52:39,829 --> 00:52:37,380 to angels and demons and poltergeists 1467 00:52:42,049 --> 00:52:39,839 and you name it abductions and 1468 00:52:44,450 --> 00:52:42,059 experiencers and contactees there's all 1469 00:52:47,089 --> 00:52:44,460 this stuff that is essentially a part of 1470 00:52:49,849 --> 00:52:47,099 the same phenomena expressing itself in 1471 00:52:51,470 --> 00:52:49,859 a what seems like different ways to 1472 00:52:52,910 --> 00:52:51,480 different people 1473 00:52:55,130 --> 00:52:52,920 so 1474 00:52:56,030 --> 00:52:55,140 um but I appreciate you guys input on 1475 00:52:57,049 --> 00:52:56,040 that I really wanted to find out what 1476 00:52:58,309 --> 00:52:57,059 you guys thought I'm gonna I want to 1477 00:53:00,530 --> 00:52:58,319 move on to the next comment by Gary 1478 00:53:01,609 --> 00:53:00,540 Nolan on the document in the documentary 1479 00:53:02,809 --> 00:53:01,619 I know you guys have probably seen the 1480 00:53:04,430 --> 00:53:02,819 need to know documentary by Ross 1481 00:53:08,210 --> 00:53:04,440 coldheart and Bryce Sable 1482 00:53:10,490 --> 00:53:08,220 yep awesome documentary I was floored I 1483 00:53:13,069 --> 00:53:10,500 almost cried with excitement no I didn't 1484 00:53:14,569 --> 00:53:13,079 but I but if I could I would have and in 1485 00:53:17,150 --> 00:53:14,579 that documentary Ross coldheart and Gary 1486 00:53:20,390 --> 00:53:17,160 Nolan have a back and forth and he's 1487 00:53:22,970 --> 00:53:20,400 asked at one point um is what is the 1488 00:53:24,890 --> 00:53:22,980 danger so when asked if it is a 1489 00:53:26,450 --> 00:53:24,900 dangerous thing to admit that you think 1490 00:53:28,010 --> 00:53:26,460 these things Gary Nolan talking about 1491 00:53:30,589 --> 00:53:28,020 the phenomena and his belief systems on 1492 00:53:32,329 --> 00:53:30,599 it Gary Nolan responded I think it's 1493 00:53:34,130 --> 00:53:32,339 dangerously necessary 1494 00:53:36,349 --> 00:53:34,140 I think that this is the kind of thing 1495 00:53:37,910 --> 00:53:36,359 that if we continue to ignore it if we 1496 00:53:39,950 --> 00:53:37,920 continue to ignore the potential danger 1497 00:53:42,410 --> 00:53:39,960 of what it might represent we are 1498 00:53:44,809 --> 00:53:42,420 putting ourselves at risk both at what 1499 00:53:46,970 --> 00:53:44,819 it might do to us at some time in the 1500 00:53:49,250 --> 00:53:46,980 future but then ignoring the physics of 1501 00:53:51,470 --> 00:53:49,260 what these things are capable of 1502 00:53:52,870 --> 00:53:51,480 that I think was a was a comment that I 1503 00:53:55,130 --> 00:53:52,880 found particularly interesting because 1504 00:53:56,390 --> 00:53:55,140 he's not saying that there is a danger 1505 00:53:57,829 --> 00:53:56,400 he's already said that these things have 1506 00:53:59,630 --> 00:53:57,839 not of the case he's investigated 1507 00:54:01,190 --> 00:53:59,640 himself there's no direct date there's 1508 00:54:03,170 --> 00:54:01,200 no danger there's no eminent danger but 1509 00:54:04,609 --> 00:54:03,180 there is a potential danger and so for 1510 00:54:07,490 --> 00:54:04,619 scientists to 1511 00:54:09,890 --> 00:54:07,500 um debunk essentially the data that is 1512 00:54:12,349 --> 00:54:09,900 the data cannot be debunked its data 1513 00:54:13,730 --> 00:54:12,359 it's there it's telling a story for 1514 00:54:16,490 --> 00:54:13,740 scientists I'm not going to mention 1515 00:54:19,510 --> 00:54:16,500 whose name who say things like that the 1516 00:54:21,829 --> 00:54:19,520 the kids in Zimbabwe saw a teddy bear or 1517 00:54:23,150 --> 00:54:21,839 these teddy bears or whatever or these 1518 00:54:25,250 --> 00:54:23,160 people in costumes and they were driving 1519 00:54:26,809 --> 00:54:25,260 a bus and that's what those kids saw and 1520 00:54:29,329 --> 00:54:26,819 they made up the rest in their head 1521 00:54:31,490 --> 00:54:29,339 I I feel like that there's a danger in 1522 00:54:33,109 --> 00:54:31,500 that because let's let's forget who 1523 00:54:35,270 --> 00:54:33,119 whether they're a danger or not if 1524 00:54:36,230 --> 00:54:35,280 you're a scientist your curiosity should 1525 00:54:38,809 --> 00:54:36,240 be 1526 00:54:40,609 --> 00:54:38,819 spiking at this the data about this 1527 00:54:41,870 --> 00:54:40,619 phenomenon and the fact that it's being 1528 00:54:43,309 --> 00:54:41,880 talked about by reputable people like 1529 00:54:45,290 --> 00:54:43,319 Christopher Bell and Gary Nolan and 1530 00:54:47,930 --> 00:54:45,300 others and of course now being 1531 00:54:49,910 --> 00:54:47,940 officially investigated by the dod come 1532 00:54:52,250 --> 00:54:49,920 on yeah I mean how what do you guys 1533 00:54:54,770 --> 00:54:52,260 think about that specifically I think 1534 00:54:56,870 --> 00:54:54,780 scientists are super interested uh like 1535 00:54:59,510 --> 00:54:56,880 you said scientists should be they are 1536 00:55:01,730 --> 00:54:59,520 guys like Avi Loeb and Gary Nolan and 1537 00:55:03,710 --> 00:55:01,740 Jacques valet that goes on and on and on 1538 00:55:04,970 --> 00:55:03,720 I mean we've had so many on our show I 1539 00:55:06,950 --> 00:55:04,980 just can't think of them all right now 1540 00:55:08,809 --> 00:55:06,960 but they're already interested in this 1541 00:55:12,530 --> 00:55:08,819 and some of them are getting funding 1542 00:55:13,849 --> 00:55:12,540 from the government so it's not you know 1543 00:55:15,349 --> 00:55:13,859 and to your point on what you were 1544 00:55:17,270 --> 00:55:15,359 saying about that exchange with Gary 1545 00:55:18,589 --> 00:55:17,280 Nolan when he was saying those things 1546 00:55:21,470 --> 00:55:18,599 that you know words like it's 1547 00:55:24,349 --> 00:55:21,480 dangerously necessary and you know it's 1548 00:55:26,630 --> 00:55:24,359 not inherently a threat but not knowing 1549 00:55:30,530 --> 00:55:26,640 is a threat I just think of Stanton 1550 00:55:32,870 --> 00:55:30,540 Friedman it's very much his flavor of 1551 00:55:35,089 --> 00:55:32,880 you know like we need to find out we are 1552 00:55:37,309 --> 00:55:35,099 going to find out you can tell me to go 1553 00:55:40,010 --> 00:55:37,319 away but I'm still going to keep doing 1554 00:55:41,630 --> 00:55:40,020 what I do and that's like a movement and 1555 00:55:44,930 --> 00:55:41,640 God bless them for the life that he led 1556 00:55:47,210 --> 00:55:44,940 and not being scared to to not just take 1557 00:55:48,650 --> 00:55:47,220 fluff for an answer and to say no no 1558 00:55:50,450 --> 00:55:48,660 wait a minute wait a minute you can't 1559 00:55:52,910 --> 00:55:50,460 just say that because that doesn't drive 1560 00:55:54,890 --> 00:55:52,920 with this and good on him for doing that 1561 00:55:56,870 --> 00:55:54,900 and I think a lot of people in the 1562 00:55:58,730 --> 00:55:56,880 Science World are doing that now we have 1563 00:56:01,089 --> 00:55:58,740 Gary Nolan coming on in two weeks we're 1564 00:56:03,890 --> 00:56:01,099 super excited to chat with him again 1565 00:56:06,470 --> 00:56:03,900 yeah it's tough to get these big brains 1566 00:56:08,630 --> 00:56:06,480 condensed down to an hour show and even 1567 00:56:11,450 --> 00:56:08,640 themselves like they have so much going 1568 00:56:13,849 --> 00:56:11,460 on in their Brilliant Minds it's hard to 1569 00:56:16,730 --> 00:56:13,859 just like make a format for a show 1570 00:56:18,470 --> 00:56:16,740 because they could talk for hours Ad 1571 00:56:20,870 --> 00:56:18,480 nauseam about any one of these 1572 00:56:21,950 --> 00:56:20,880 particular points so we got our work cut 1573 00:56:23,990 --> 00:56:21,960 out for us 1574 00:56:25,849 --> 00:56:24,000 there's such a thing as uh being 1575 00:56:27,530 --> 00:56:25,859 arrogantly ignorant 1576 00:56:29,270 --> 00:56:27,540 and I think that people forget that 1577 00:56:31,910 --> 00:56:29,280 they're able and capable of doing this 1578 00:56:34,790 --> 00:56:31,920 you know like to the point of saying 1579 00:56:37,490 --> 00:56:34,800 it's so far-fetched to me to think that 1580 00:56:39,109 --> 00:56:37,500 an alien craft landed and that two 1581 00:56:40,970 --> 00:56:39,119 little entities came out one of them 1582 00:56:43,250 --> 00:56:40,980 spoke to a bunch of kids 1583 00:56:46,309 --> 00:56:43,260 that I would rather conceive the idea 1584 00:56:48,890 --> 00:56:46,319 that it was a bus that stopped and teddy 1585 00:56:50,089 --> 00:56:48,900 bears came out and waved at the kids and 1586 00:56:53,150 --> 00:56:50,099 all the kids like you know what I mean 1587 00:56:54,710 --> 00:56:53,160 like you gotta be kidding me like to the 1588 00:56:57,170 --> 00:56:54,720 point where you came and wrapped your 1589 00:56:59,150 --> 00:56:57,180 head around maybe it's a possibility and 1590 00:57:02,030 --> 00:56:59,160 that may the theory about the bus and 1591 00:57:03,589 --> 00:57:02,040 the teddy bears is ridiculous like that 1592 00:57:05,750 --> 00:57:03,599 school is in the middle of nowhere 1593 00:57:07,370 --> 00:57:05,760 Africa like who would say hey what are 1594 00:57:08,809 --> 00:57:07,380 you doing this morning nothing you want 1595 00:57:10,790 --> 00:57:08,819 to dress up like teddy bears and go 1596 00:57:12,890 --> 00:57:10,800 scare some kids at the school like 1597 00:57:16,130 --> 00:57:12,900 nobody would do that and then think 1598 00:57:17,990 --> 00:57:16,140 about it teddy bears yeah if school bus 1599 00:57:20,150 --> 00:57:18,000 and teddy bears are familiar to those 1600 00:57:21,530 --> 00:57:20,160 kids they would clearly Define it they 1601 00:57:23,809 --> 00:57:21,540 didn't know anything about aliens or 1602 00:57:25,790 --> 00:57:23,819 ships and never been told any of that so 1603 00:57:27,950 --> 00:57:25,800 when that happened they were like it 1604 00:57:29,750 --> 00:57:27,960 looked like some kind of a bubble and 1605 00:57:32,089 --> 00:57:29,760 creatures like they didn't even call 1606 00:57:34,549 --> 00:57:32,099 them aliens they just described what 1607 00:57:37,430 --> 00:57:34,559 sound an awful lot like aliens in a 1608 00:57:39,230 --> 00:57:37,440 spacecraft but a bus and teddy bears are 1609 00:57:42,290 --> 00:57:39,240 familiar to them they wouldn't have 1610 00:57:44,809 --> 00:57:42,300 mistakenly said you know that's a car 1611 00:57:46,730 --> 00:57:44,819 not a train or that's a bear not a 1612 00:57:48,589 --> 00:57:46,740 rubber ducky like I have an 18 month old 1613 00:57:50,930 --> 00:57:48,599 she knows the difference between her 1614 00:57:53,329 --> 00:57:50,940 bunny and her Teddy Bear right so 1615 00:57:55,309 --> 00:57:53,339 there's no way you know kids would not 1616 00:57:57,049 --> 00:57:55,319 recognize that I think what you say is a 1617 00:57:58,450 --> 00:57:57,059 testament to like this idea that human 1618 00:58:00,650 --> 00:57:58,460 beings are not very good 1619 00:58:03,290 --> 00:58:00,660 observers I think we're pretty good at 1620 00:58:04,609 --> 00:58:03,300 observing you know just basic reality we 1621 00:58:06,290 --> 00:58:04,619 may not be good at deserving things we 1622 00:58:07,250 --> 00:58:06,300 are not familiar with but even when 1623 00:58:08,510 --> 00:58:07,260 we're looking at something we're not 1624 00:58:11,569 --> 00:58:08,520 familiar with we're not it's not so 1625 00:58:13,849 --> 00:58:11,579 unfamiliar that we completely lose like 1626 00:58:16,130 --> 00:58:13,859 the the the substance of that thing so 1627 00:58:18,049 --> 00:58:16,140 for example Reynolds from forest you're 1628 00:58:19,549 --> 00:58:18,059 talking about a guy who they clean saw a 1629 00:58:21,650 --> 00:58:19,559 lighthouse well he didn't touch a 1630 00:58:24,470 --> 00:58:21,660 lighthouse from miles away and then 1631 00:58:26,450 --> 00:58:24,480 hallucinate the black structure of a 1632 00:58:28,849 --> 00:58:26,460 crab that had writings and symbols like 1633 00:58:30,170 --> 00:58:28,859 come on we're talking about it the man 1634 00:58:31,670 --> 00:58:30,180 was responsible for he was in the 1635 00:58:34,190 --> 00:58:31,680 military he responsible for defense he 1636 00:58:36,410 --> 00:58:34,200 he's not so far removed from reality 1637 00:58:39,109 --> 00:58:36,420 that he can't describe his observational 1638 00:58:41,049 --> 00:58:39,119 reality so yeah it's it's kind of 1639 00:58:43,849 --> 00:58:41,059 disrespectful to have those takes those 1640 00:58:45,650 --> 00:58:43,859 debunker takes versus being analytical 1641 00:58:46,910 --> 00:58:45,660 and skeptical and if you're skeptical 1642 00:58:48,170 --> 00:58:46,920 and analytical you're going to come to a 1643 00:58:50,630 --> 00:58:48,180 very interesting conclusion no matter 1644 00:58:53,089 --> 00:58:50,640 what data on this phenomena you're 1645 00:58:54,770 --> 00:58:53,099 looking at whether it's you you kind of 1646 00:58:57,049 --> 00:58:54,780 you kind of get rid of the balloon 1647 00:58:58,730 --> 00:58:57,059 phenomena and the entities of balloon 1648 00:59:00,530 --> 00:58:58,740 identities or the drones once you get 1649 00:59:03,770 --> 00:59:00,540 rid of that stuff you got a lot you got 1650 00:59:06,410 --> 00:59:03,780 171 cases of something strange and then 1651 00:59:08,210 --> 00:59:06,420 you have Ryan Graves and you know you 1652 00:59:09,710 --> 00:59:08,220 know command David favor and now there's 1653 00:59:11,270 --> 00:59:09,720 a new podcast Lauren Grace where he's 1654 00:59:13,730 --> 00:59:11,280 talking to Pilots who've seen more 1655 00:59:15,289 --> 00:59:13,740 things yeah you can't dismiss that as 1656 00:59:17,690 --> 00:59:15,299 people just not being able to to 1657 00:59:20,270 --> 00:59:17,700 understand observable reality and what I 1658 00:59:21,710 --> 00:59:20,280 found funny is when uh uh I think it was 1659 00:59:24,349 --> 00:59:21,720 Midwest that said it could have been 1660 00:59:27,650 --> 00:59:24,359 seagulls that you know Captain America 1661 00:59:29,569 --> 00:59:27,660 oh my gosh that guy yeah it's just like 1662 00:59:32,809 --> 00:59:29,579 what seagulls you need to tell me that 1663 00:59:35,329 --> 00:59:32,819 we spent millions of dollars training 1664 00:59:37,630 --> 00:59:35,339 these experts and they're just flying 1665 00:59:40,849 --> 00:59:37,640 and they're going oh my God what is this 1666 00:59:43,010 --> 00:59:40,859 is fired immediately 1667 00:59:45,770 --> 00:59:43,020 to mention the Machinery that they're 1668 00:59:47,450 --> 00:59:45,780 operating is meant to have bombs on it 1669 00:59:49,370 --> 00:59:47,460 you're going to trust these people to 1670 00:59:51,109 --> 00:59:49,380 know when to drop it and when not to hit 1671 00:59:53,329 --> 00:59:51,119 the school yeah but he's going to see 1672 00:59:55,370 --> 00:59:53,339 seagulls instead that's an insult to his 1673 00:59:57,670 --> 00:59:55,380 training he's the most skill yeah 1674 00:59:59,809 --> 00:59:57,680 there's nobody above that for training 1675 01:00:01,430 --> 00:59:59,819 isn't he is he everything about a top 1676 01:00:02,870 --> 01:00:01,440 gun or is he a top top gun I can't 1677 01:00:04,849 --> 01:00:02,880 remember I think he's the top of them 1678 01:00:06,530 --> 01:00:04,859 like he's yeah we'll ask him he's coming 1679 01:00:08,870 --> 01:00:06,540 on our show in a couple weeks awesome 1680 01:00:10,670 --> 01:00:08,880 let's do that yeah I agree this one I 1681 01:00:13,130 --> 01:00:10,680 mean you know Ryan Graves yeah it's a 1682 01:00:14,930 --> 01:00:13,140 captain flavor yeah I'm sorry committed 1683 01:00:16,670 --> 01:00:14,940 David favor my apologies favor is like 1684 01:00:18,470 --> 01:00:16,680 every I think he's either a top gun or 1685 01:00:20,569 --> 01:00:18,480 he's everything but a Top Gun Ryan 1686 01:00:23,030 --> 01:00:20,579 Graves again of equal caliber I mean 1687 01:00:24,530 --> 01:00:23,040 these guys are the best of the best yeah 1688 01:00:26,329 --> 01:00:24,540 and not only do they know but they've 1689 01:00:28,010 --> 01:00:26,339 talked to people who and another thing 1690 01:00:29,510 --> 01:00:28,020 of the whole idea of you can't you're 1691 01:00:31,670 --> 01:00:29,520 talking about someone who talked to 1692 01:00:33,349 --> 01:00:31,680 someone well these someone's have all 1693 01:00:34,670 --> 01:00:33,359 experienced something they've all seen 1694 01:00:37,490 --> 01:00:34,680 something and they've seen it with 1695 01:00:40,490 --> 01:00:37,500 multiple people and multiple observation 1696 01:00:43,309 --> 01:00:40,500 methods that we trust for National 1697 01:00:44,510 --> 01:00:43,319 Defense events so again it just as you 1698 01:00:47,329 --> 01:00:44,520 guys are seeing it does it's kind of 1699 01:00:49,490 --> 01:00:47,339 it's a it's a bit idiotic or it's 1700 01:00:51,650 --> 01:00:49,500 intentionally deceptive to say things 1701 01:00:53,390 --> 01:00:51,660 like it's probably seagulls that they're 1702 01:00:55,789 --> 01:00:53,400 misperceiving these objects as sequels 1703 01:00:57,650 --> 01:00:55,799 and then everybody else flies super fast 1704 01:00:58,730 --> 01:00:57,660 and meet them at the cap point you know 1705 01:01:00,710 --> 01:00:58,740 what I mean well you said you're going 1706 01:01:04,010 --> 01:01:00,720 to maneuver them like yeah come on we're 1707 01:01:05,690 --> 01:01:04,020 talking again undeniable data you said 1708 01:01:08,270 --> 01:01:05,700 you're gonna talk to Brian Graves on his 1709 01:01:11,030 --> 01:01:08,280 podcast he mentioned he he talked to 1710 01:01:13,549 --> 01:01:11,040 someone about you know about what he saw 1711 01:01:16,190 --> 01:01:13,559 and describe this the circle with the 1712 01:01:18,589 --> 01:01:16,200 cube inside of it they're describing 1713 01:01:20,690 --> 01:01:18,599 things that are just they're phenomenal 1714 01:01:22,970 --> 01:01:20,700 just by appearance they're not 1715 01:01:25,609 --> 01:01:22,980 describing what looks like a seagull 1716 01:01:28,010 --> 01:01:25,619 with wings and feathers and a beak and 1717 01:01:30,950 --> 01:01:28,020 whatever and making oh they're saying 1718 01:01:33,049 --> 01:01:30,960 that these are weird things that are 1719 01:01:34,609 --> 01:01:33,059 performing in exceptional ways and they 1720 01:01:37,309 --> 01:01:34,619 got a good look at them there weren't 1721 01:01:39,710 --> 01:01:37,319 fuzzy grainy yeah kind of this or that I 1722 01:01:42,829 --> 01:01:39,720 couldn't tell no it was like a Tic Tac 1723 01:01:45,170 --> 01:01:42,839 or it was like a box and very you know 1724 01:01:47,990 --> 01:01:45,180 specific in what they saw they got a 1725 01:01:50,930 --> 01:01:48,000 clear look it wasn't just you know from 1726 01:01:52,609 --> 01:01:50,940 afar yeah and when it the one that 1727 01:01:54,349 --> 01:01:52,619 really irks me and was like how do you 1728 01:01:56,870 --> 01:01:54,359 know it's not ours how do you know it's 1729 01:01:58,250 --> 01:01:56,880 not our technology like I'm gonna be 42 1730 01:02:01,010 --> 01:01:58,260 this year 1731 01:02:03,349 --> 01:02:01,020 I have 42 years of being a human expert 1732 01:02:05,270 --> 01:02:03,359 I've lived amongst humans I know exactly 1733 01:02:08,270 --> 01:02:05,280 how we think I know what technology 1734 01:02:10,130 --> 01:02:08,280 we're capable of what is like out there 1735 01:02:11,930 --> 01:02:10,140 that's I couldn't even fathom anybody 1736 01:02:14,270 --> 01:02:11,940 coming up with so when you have these 1737 01:02:16,010 --> 01:02:14,280 trans observers you know that are like I 1738 01:02:18,170 --> 01:02:16,020 said there's nobody above them 1739 01:02:21,829 --> 01:02:18,180 there's nobody on this planet they are 1740 01:02:23,809 --> 01:02:21,839 as good at this as those guys are so 1741 01:02:26,930 --> 01:02:23,819 when they come down and they go what the 1742 01:02:28,849 --> 01:02:26,940 f was that on camera like what is that 1743 01:02:30,710 --> 01:02:28,859 what is that whoa freaking exactly you 1744 01:02:33,109 --> 01:02:30,720 hear them like the actual reaction like 1745 01:02:34,609 --> 01:02:33,119 what is it they're freaking out that 1746 01:02:36,589 --> 01:02:34,619 gives me goosebumps every single time 1747 01:02:37,849 --> 01:02:36,599 and when they said uh you know there's a 1748 01:02:41,089 --> 01:02:37,859 whole Fleet of them 1749 01:02:42,650 --> 01:02:41,099 they say there's a whole flea to them 1750 01:02:44,089 --> 01:02:42,660 like yeah and that's another thing that 1751 01:02:46,130 --> 01:02:44,099 we don't get in the report either right 1752 01:02:47,690 --> 01:02:46,140 the The Fleets that when they here's an 1753 01:02:49,670 --> 01:02:47,700 interesting point on that here's an 1754 01:02:53,089 --> 01:02:49,680 interesting point on that so apparently 1755 01:02:54,770 --> 01:02:53,099 the US does have some crazy stealth 1756 01:02:57,289 --> 01:02:54,780 Machinery I don't know if they're 1757 01:02:59,450 --> 01:02:57,299 aircraft or what but they do simulation 1758 01:03:02,210 --> 01:02:59,460 bombing runs in and around the Nevada 1759 01:03:05,690 --> 01:03:02,220 area so the aim of the game is this 1760 01:03:07,490 --> 01:03:05,700 stealth craft is impeding airspace and 1761 01:03:10,309 --> 01:03:07,500 we use the best fighter jets we have 1762 01:03:12,530 --> 01:03:10,319 with all of our technology to try to go 1763 01:03:13,849 --> 01:03:12,540 find it and intercept it so they're 1764 01:03:16,190 --> 01:03:13,859 trying to test if this thing is 1765 01:03:18,109 --> 01:03:16,200 detectable or not using the greatest 1766 01:03:20,150 --> 01:03:18,119 planes on the planet which are the ones 1767 01:03:22,609 --> 01:03:20,160 they also own right so they're using 1768 01:03:24,829 --> 01:03:22,619 their best planes to try to catch their 1769 01:03:26,990 --> 01:03:24,839 best stealth Fighters and they have not 1770 01:03:30,410 --> 01:03:27,000 yet successfully intercepted this once 1771 01:03:31,730 --> 01:03:30,420 during any of the simulations so these 1772 01:03:33,890 --> 01:03:31,740 things are showing up because they want 1773 01:03:36,410 --> 01:03:33,900 to show up because if we wanted to test 1774 01:03:38,270 --> 01:03:36,420 our top secret junk we could do it 1775 01:03:40,849 --> 01:03:38,280 without it being seen there wouldn't be 1776 01:03:43,010 --> 01:03:40,859 a mistake where you got F-18 Pilots 1777 01:03:45,829 --> 01:03:43,020 saying wow what is that like as Jason 1778 01:03:48,170 --> 01:03:45,839 said all the audio that we've heard they 1779 01:03:50,150 --> 01:03:48,180 have stuff that we cannot even catch 1780 01:03:52,609 --> 01:03:50,160 ourselves it is that good 1781 01:03:54,049 --> 01:03:52,619 and that's how you know it's not ours 1782 01:03:55,430 --> 01:03:54,059 and they're performing and again it's 1783 01:03:58,190 --> 01:03:55,440 not China it's a Russians because if it 1784 01:03:59,329 --> 01:03:58,200 was you you got it come on like okay I 1785 01:04:01,730 --> 01:03:59,339 sometimes want to plead with people 1786 01:04:02,990 --> 01:04:01,740 please tell me why China or Russia would 1787 01:04:04,190 --> 01:04:03,000 have said on that technology when 1788 01:04:06,230 --> 01:04:04,200 they're they're literally willing to 1789 01:04:08,569 --> 01:04:06,240 wipe everybody else off and Espionage 1790 01:04:10,069 --> 01:04:08,579 keeps everybody sharp if Russia had it 1791 01:04:12,049 --> 01:04:10,079 this happened during the Cold War we 1792 01:04:14,510 --> 01:04:12,059 stole info back and forth from them like 1793 01:04:16,190 --> 01:04:14,520 crazy and it made both forces really 1794 01:04:18,770 --> 01:04:16,200 good to the point where we're like okay 1795 01:04:21,109 --> 01:04:18,780 now it's mutually assured destruction if 1796 01:04:23,329 --> 01:04:21,119 we each do you know with the stuff that 1797 01:04:25,549 --> 01:04:23,339 we made because of this fight so if 1798 01:04:26,930 --> 01:04:25,559 Russia or China had it somebody else 1799 01:04:28,549 --> 01:04:26,940 would have it Russia would get it from 1800 01:04:30,890 --> 01:04:28,559 China the Americans would steal it from 1801 01:04:33,170 --> 01:04:30,900 Russia or like there would be a way that 1802 01:04:34,910 --> 01:04:33,180 we would know about it and we would be 1803 01:04:37,370 --> 01:04:34,920 emulating that same thing it would keep 1804 01:04:39,049 --> 01:04:37,380 everybody's game sharp right none of us 1805 01:04:41,510 --> 01:04:39,059 are even close to competing with 1806 01:04:43,309 --> 01:04:41,520 whatever these things are or Russia 1807 01:04:44,750 --> 01:04:43,319 would have used it so yeah another thing 1808 01:04:46,309 --> 01:04:44,760 in the report which I thought was very 1809 01:04:49,490 --> 01:04:46,319 interesting is that there's been no 1810 01:04:52,069 --> 01:04:49,500 collision between a UFO UAP and an 1811 01:04:53,510 --> 01:04:52,079 aircraft yeah so that you got to think 1812 01:04:55,270 --> 01:04:53,520 of all the reports that they get that 1813 01:04:57,650 --> 01:04:55,280 would be near misses there would be 1814 01:04:59,150 --> 01:04:57,660 incidences where you know 1815 01:05:00,950 --> 01:04:59,160 for crying out loud we got planes that 1816 01:05:03,109 --> 01:05:00,960 crash into each other all the time right 1817 01:05:04,490 --> 01:05:03,119 that just happens a small Cessna planes 1818 01:05:06,530 --> 01:05:04,500 or whatever 1819 01:05:08,150 --> 01:05:06,540 um but these things don't happen and 1820 01:05:10,190 --> 01:05:08,160 people say like you know these crafts 1821 01:05:12,589 --> 01:05:10,200 will approach the aircraft and just stop 1822 01:05:14,930 --> 01:05:12,599 within feed of it right like it just 1823 01:05:17,450 --> 01:05:14,940 knows exactly where to stop and it could 1824 01:05:19,849 --> 01:05:17,460 take off again come back and you know or 1825 01:05:21,890 --> 01:05:19,859 as they're flying as they're flying it 1826 01:05:24,609 --> 01:05:21,900 can like mirror them right in front of 1827 01:05:27,589 --> 01:05:24,619 their of the cockpit yeah yeah 1828 01:05:29,750 --> 01:05:27,599 that's so weird they do that to cars as 1829 01:05:31,490 --> 01:05:29,760 well I had a nurse in Vancouver reach 1830 01:05:33,470 --> 01:05:31,500 out to me and she mentioned that uh 1831 01:05:35,750 --> 01:05:33,480 there was an orb one night green orb 1832 01:05:37,490 --> 01:05:35,760 that fell right in front of her uh car 1833 01:05:39,710 --> 01:05:37,500 window as she's driving over the bridge 1834 01:05:42,289 --> 01:05:39,720 in Vancouver and it just followed Pace 1835 01:05:44,510 --> 01:05:42,299 with her backwards it did a scan of the 1836 01:05:47,930 --> 01:05:44,520 car and then flew back up and that was 1837 01:05:49,910 --> 01:05:47,940 it but got her terrified and like it 1838 01:05:52,309 --> 01:05:49,920 just came down and followed her like 1839 01:05:53,930 --> 01:05:52,319 perfectly just the same amount of 1840 01:05:56,990 --> 01:05:53,940 distance and never flood you know never 1841 01:05:58,730 --> 01:05:57,000 fluctuated that's insane and you know 1842 01:06:00,770 --> 01:05:58,740 people are experiencing this on you know 1843 01:06:02,950 --> 01:06:00,780 not just orbs coming out of the sky 1844 01:06:05,089 --> 01:06:02,960 they're seeing you know multiple crafts 1845 01:06:06,890 --> 01:06:05,099 sometimes multiple crafts that turn into 1846 01:06:09,349 --> 01:06:06,900 a big craft or a big craft that turns 1847 01:06:12,289 --> 01:06:09,359 into multiple crafts right uh it it's 1848 01:06:14,750 --> 01:06:12,299 just such a weird phenomenon even if we 1849 01:06:16,609 --> 01:06:14,760 would try like to us it's magic right 1850 01:06:18,470 --> 01:06:16,619 it's just the science that's so far 1851 01:06:20,510 --> 01:06:18,480 Advanced to us it's magic we don't 1852 01:06:21,770 --> 01:06:20,520 understand it and I think that's the 1853 01:06:23,450 --> 01:06:21,780 scary part why they don't want to 1854 01:06:25,309 --> 01:06:23,460 disclose things to the the general 1855 01:06:27,770 --> 01:06:25,319 population because we're outsmarted 1856 01:06:30,770 --> 01:06:27,780 these things are more intelligence more 1857 01:06:33,109 --> 01:06:30,780 science more technology they just 1858 01:06:35,510 --> 01:06:33,119 listen we're we're very primitive 1859 01:06:37,309 --> 01:06:35,520 compared to these things right by far by 1860 01:06:39,829 --> 01:06:37,319 far we are we're like monkeys not even 1861 01:06:41,569 --> 01:06:39,839 we're less than that we like to think of 1862 01:06:43,549 --> 01:06:41,579 ourselves as equal with other you know 1863 01:06:45,289 --> 01:06:43,559 galactic neighbors because in every 1864 01:06:48,470 --> 01:06:45,299 movie we have we're always defeating 1865 01:06:50,270 --> 01:06:48,480 them and yeah they're equal equal to us 1866 01:06:52,549 --> 01:06:50,280 somehow their aircrafts are always have 1867 01:06:54,589 --> 01:06:52,559 a vulnerability a soft spot 1868 01:06:57,589 --> 01:06:54,599 I think we're social [\h__\h] yeah I think 1869 01:06:59,569 --> 01:06:57,599 the closest thing I can think of to like 1870 01:07:01,970 --> 01:06:59,579 like the superiority of these of these 1871 01:07:04,789 --> 01:07:01,980 beings in movies would be like The Day 1872 01:07:07,430 --> 01:07:04,799 the Earth Stood Still where the Keanu 1873 01:07:08,809 --> 01:07:07,440 Reeves version where like this orb drops 1874 01:07:10,370 --> 01:07:08,819 into the to the middle of like I think 1875 01:07:13,130 --> 01:07:10,380 it was New York City and then it 1876 01:07:16,370 --> 01:07:13,140 releases this weird nanotechnology 1877 01:07:17,870 --> 01:07:16,380 driven automaton and they're like hey by 1878 01:07:19,250 --> 01:07:17,880 the way they're collecting all these 1879 01:07:21,109 --> 01:07:19,260 orbs go to like different places to 1880 01:07:23,089 --> 01:07:21,119 collect all the species on the planet 1881 01:07:24,890 --> 01:07:23,099 like like a note like arcs you know 1882 01:07:26,210 --> 01:07:24,900 because we're destroying the planet and 1883 01:07:28,789 --> 01:07:26,220 they're and they're like the only 1884 01:07:31,789 --> 01:07:28,799 solution is to wipe out technology 1885 01:07:33,170 --> 01:07:31,799 um to save us essentially and given you 1886 01:07:35,329 --> 01:07:33,180 know and again I'm just just a 1887 01:07:37,490 --> 01:07:35,339 comparison of like superiority of of 1888 01:07:40,609 --> 01:07:37,500 this Tech they're so far Advanced from 1889 01:07:42,650 --> 01:07:40,619 us and again they also bio you know made 1890 01:07:45,829 --> 01:07:42,660 a freaking human 1891 01:07:46,849 --> 01:07:45,839 in days from a blob right do you 1892 01:07:48,470 --> 01:07:46,859 remember do you guys remember that movie 1893 01:07:50,089 --> 01:07:48,480 they they kind of had a blob and they 1894 01:07:51,470 --> 01:07:50,099 people took it and it turned into a 1895 01:07:53,450 --> 01:07:51,480 human and it was Keanu Reeves it's like 1896 01:07:56,390 --> 01:07:53,460 it is even it's not even the being it's 1897 01:07:57,650 --> 01:07:56,400 just using it as a vessel that was just 1898 01:07:59,390 --> 01:07:57,660 the most 1899 01:08:01,190 --> 01:07:59,400 it was interesting it was interesting so 1900 01:08:02,690 --> 01:08:01,200 so I want to bring up another comment 1901 01:08:04,309 --> 01:08:02,700 another another back and forth I thought 1902 01:08:06,470 --> 01:08:04,319 was really really I think it's probably 1903 01:08:08,089 --> 01:08:06,480 the most the most interesting because 1904 01:08:09,410 --> 01:08:08,099 one of the things I think is is a 1905 01:08:11,510 --> 01:08:09,420 problem is 1906 01:08:13,690 --> 01:08:11,520 when we talk about this phenomena we 1907 01:08:16,729 --> 01:08:13,700 focus heavily on the craft UAP 1908 01:08:19,309 --> 01:08:16,739 unidentified anomalous now phenomena a 1909 01:08:21,530 --> 01:08:19,319 UFOs an identified flying objects as we 1910 01:08:24,229 --> 01:08:21,540 all know them but we don't talk about 1911 01:08:25,610 --> 01:08:24,239 what's who's behind them and there's a 1912 01:08:27,709 --> 01:08:25,620 back and forth that I wanted to really 1913 01:08:29,809 --> 01:08:27,719 get and get into between 1914 01:08:31,849 --> 01:08:29,819 um Ross coldheart and Gary Nolan 1915 01:08:34,669 --> 01:08:31,859 so let me just kind of bullet pull this 1916 01:08:36,169 --> 01:08:34,679 out so he's so he asks him I'm gonna run 1917 01:08:38,090 --> 01:08:36,179 quick bathroom break you guys keep going 1918 01:08:40,970 --> 01:08:38,100 I'll be right back sure no problem so 1919 01:08:43,249 --> 01:08:40,980 actually while he while he's while we 1920 01:08:45,110 --> 01:08:43,259 Louis runs to the bathroom 1921 01:08:47,470 --> 01:08:45,120 I want to bring something else up I want 1922 01:08:51,590 --> 01:08:47,480 to bring something else up so there was 1923 01:08:53,749 --> 01:08:51,600 a there slide nine is is just one of 1924 01:08:55,010 --> 01:08:53,759 many slides there have been accounts 1925 01:08:56,450 --> 01:08:55,020 that have talked about 1926 01:08:58,370 --> 01:08:56,460 this other 1927 01:09:00,470 --> 01:08:58,380 I I guess you want to call it conspiracy 1928 01:09:02,150 --> 01:09:00,480 theory that has been that has been 1929 01:09:04,669 --> 01:09:02,160 mentioned by some pretty prominent 1930 01:09:08,570 --> 01:09:04,679 figures like Sam Friedman of course 1931 01:09:10,370 --> 01:09:08,580 um and uh and um Bryce Sable about 1932 01:09:13,490 --> 01:09:10,380 Eisenhower 1933 01:09:15,470 --> 01:09:13,500 and others having direct contact with 1934 01:09:17,450 --> 01:09:15,480 these beings with the race these beings 1935 01:09:19,130 --> 01:09:17,460 and Eisenhower specifically I believe 1936 01:09:21,650 --> 01:09:19,140 was the one who I think it was 1937 01:09:22,729 --> 01:09:21,660 Eisenhower who had a meeting allegedly 1938 01:09:23,689 --> 01:09:22,739 had a meeting with him out in the middle 1939 01:09:24,890 --> 01:09:23,699 of the desert or something like that 1940 01:09:27,110 --> 01:09:24,900 when he was supposed to be doing 1941 01:09:28,370 --> 01:09:27,120 something else he was off the media's 1942 01:09:31,189 --> 01:09:28,380 radar and he was actually meeting with 1943 01:09:33,289 --> 01:09:31,199 extraterrestrials and he made it he made 1944 01:09:35,209 --> 01:09:33,299 a deal with them that 1945 01:09:37,370 --> 01:09:35,219 he would allow them to abduct a certain 1946 01:09:38,570 --> 01:09:37,380 number of American citizens that they 1947 01:09:40,789 --> 01:09:38,580 had to document 1948 01:09:42,110 --> 01:09:40,799 and that he would in exchange they would 1949 01:09:44,510 --> 01:09:42,120 give us technology 1950 01:09:46,789 --> 01:09:44,520 to help us further our civilization 1951 01:09:48,769 --> 01:09:46,799 and they agreed to it the problem is 1952 01:09:50,689 --> 01:09:48,779 that they didn't stick to that agreement 1953 01:09:52,669 --> 01:09:50,699 they were abducting more than they said 1954 01:09:53,930 --> 01:09:52,679 they would and they were not tracking 1955 01:09:55,850 --> 01:09:53,940 who they were abducting they were doing 1956 01:09:58,790 --> 01:09:55,860 it rampantly 1957 01:10:01,310 --> 01:09:58,800 um and that worried the government and 1958 01:10:03,110 --> 01:10:01,320 the dod it scared them because here they 1959 01:10:05,570 --> 01:10:03,120 are dealing with a completely Advanced 1960 01:10:07,790 --> 01:10:05,580 like an advanced race of beings that is 1961 01:10:09,350 --> 01:10:07,800 way out of our control and they could do 1962 01:10:10,970 --> 01:10:09,360 whatever they want to and now they're 1963 01:10:12,770 --> 01:10:10,980 doing whatever they want to and there's 1964 01:10:14,270 --> 01:10:12,780 nothing we could do about it and that's 1965 01:10:16,850 --> 01:10:14,280 essentially kind of where the beginning 1966 01:10:19,130 --> 01:10:16,860 of our fear of what the dod the US's 1967 01:10:20,270 --> 01:10:19,140 fear of these beings began that's 1968 01:10:22,189 --> 01:10:20,280 allegedly 1969 01:10:24,229 --> 01:10:22,199 do you know anything about that that 1970 01:10:27,229 --> 01:10:24,239 alleged meeting between them or did you 1971 01:10:29,330 --> 01:10:27,239 not kind of dig too far into the eyes I 1972 01:10:31,550 --> 01:10:29,340 personally always dismissed it because 1973 01:10:33,770 --> 01:10:31,560 there's some aspects to it if you think 1974 01:10:35,030 --> 01:10:33,780 about it that doesn't make sense he 1975 01:10:37,070 --> 01:10:35,040 would have had to have set the 1976 01:10:38,750 --> 01:10:37,080 parameters of what the United States is 1977 01:10:40,010 --> 01:10:38,760 he would have had to explain to them or 1978 01:10:42,350 --> 01:10:40,020 somebody would have to explain to them 1979 01:10:44,630 --> 01:10:42,360 what a country is what the borders are 1980 01:10:48,350 --> 01:10:44,640 and to adhere to this this specific 1981 01:10:50,149 --> 01:10:48,360 group within this line here that's all 1982 01:10:52,010 --> 01:10:50,159 you can take we know it's a global 1983 01:10:54,410 --> 01:10:52,020 phenomenon in that everybody's being 1984 01:10:56,750 --> 01:10:54,420 taken everywhere right right 1985 01:10:58,729 --> 01:10:56,760 um the other one too it's like even if 1986 01:11:00,350 --> 01:10:58,739 you had an agreement usually in human 1987 01:11:02,149 --> 01:11:00,360 terms we have some sort of contract 1988 01:11:03,709 --> 01:11:02,159 where we get a signature how do you get 1989 01:11:06,050 --> 01:11:03,719 an alien to sign something they wouldn't 1990 01:11:07,550 --> 01:11:06,060 understand the concept of it put your 1991 01:11:10,790 --> 01:11:07,560 squiggly line here and then we're going 1992 01:11:13,790 --> 01:11:10,800 to hold you to it have you seen Stables 1993 01:11:17,090 --> 01:11:13,800 um TV series uh Dark Skies 1994 01:11:19,610 --> 01:11:17,100 I have not no so they do it they they do 1995 01:11:21,709 --> 01:11:19,620 an a recount of that of course a 1996 01:11:24,229 --> 01:11:21,719 dramatized and into entertainment 1997 01:11:26,450 --> 01:11:24,239 version of the account and it's really 1998 01:11:28,850 --> 01:11:26,460 odd it's like these really weird looking 1999 01:11:31,790 --> 01:11:28,860 gray-like beings and they release this 2000 01:11:34,189 --> 01:11:31,800 like morphing object 2001 01:11:35,750 --> 01:11:34,199 out you know onto the table that 2002 01:11:36,950 --> 01:11:35,760 flattens onto the table and he says I 2003 01:11:38,149 --> 01:11:36,960 think you're supposed to touch it Mr 2004 01:11:40,310 --> 01:11:38,159 President and they're like don't in the 2005 01:11:41,990 --> 01:11:40,320 military guys like don't touch it Mr 2006 01:11:44,090 --> 01:11:42,000 President and he does anyway and it 2007 01:11:46,610 --> 01:11:44,100 changes again and essentially that is 2008 01:11:48,169 --> 01:11:46,620 that was like the the agreement and 2009 01:11:51,110 --> 01:11:48,179 there was an it was a non-negotiable 2010 01:11:52,729 --> 01:11:51,120 agreement in the in the show right but 2011 01:11:55,310 --> 01:11:52,739 where does this information come from 2012 01:11:57,350 --> 01:11:55,320 right well some people suggest that he 2013 01:12:00,050 --> 01:11:57,360 was given information directly from 2014 01:12:02,270 --> 01:12:00,060 about mj-12 about the the their 2015 01:12:03,649 --> 01:12:02,280 involvement with hunting down this 2016 01:12:06,530 --> 01:12:03,659 phenomena investigating the phenomena 2017 01:12:08,149 --> 01:12:06,540 and directly with these et's 2018 01:12:09,410 --> 01:12:08,159 um he says he talked to people about it 2019 01:12:11,090 --> 01:12:09,420 and that's where he got the inspiration 2020 01:12:12,830 --> 01:12:11,100 essentially he got some of the 2021 01:12:15,290 --> 01:12:12,840 inspiration from like talking to people 2022 01:12:16,970 --> 01:12:15,300 about the phenomena now at that party 2023 01:12:19,070 --> 01:12:16,980 which I've mentioned before on other 2024 01:12:20,930 --> 01:12:19,080 other podcasts he he was at a party that 2025 01:12:23,330 --> 01:12:20,940 he hosted for the launch of this pug of 2026 01:12:24,410 --> 01:12:23,340 this uh TV show and he met these two 2027 01:12:25,669 --> 01:12:24,420 figures that said they were from the Air 2028 01:12:27,770 --> 01:12:25,679 Force I can't remember the specific 2029 01:12:28,970 --> 01:12:27,780 department and they gave him the secrets 2030 01:12:31,310 --> 01:12:28,980 of the universe and it was like on a 2031 01:12:34,070 --> 01:12:31,320 napkin it was like light sound and 2032 01:12:35,930 --> 01:12:34,080 frequency think it was and not in that 2033 01:12:37,550 --> 01:12:35,940 necessarily that order but they said 2034 01:12:39,890 --> 01:12:37,560 when he when he showed them when he 2035 01:12:41,689 --> 01:12:39,900 talked about the the series they said 2036 01:12:43,370 --> 01:12:41,699 they don't like the one aspect of how 2037 01:12:44,990 --> 01:12:43,380 the phenomena is because it's not 2038 01:12:46,430 --> 01:12:45,000 correct and he said I don't care if it's 2039 01:12:47,990 --> 01:12:46,440 correct Bryce Abel said I don't care if 2040 01:12:50,270 --> 01:12:48,000 it's correct I just want to make an 2041 01:12:52,729 --> 01:12:50,280 entertaining Series so on the one hand 2042 01:12:54,229 --> 01:12:52,739 he completely dramatized and exaggerated 2043 01:12:55,790 --> 01:12:54,239 make it and made them kind of violent 2044 01:12:57,410 --> 01:12:55,800 and scary and like horror type thing 2045 01:12:58,729 --> 01:12:57,420 which I didn't like that either I did 2046 01:13:00,350 --> 01:12:58,739 not like that because I was like well if 2047 01:13:02,209 --> 01:13:00,360 you're gonna do it then it was a great 2048 01:13:04,490 --> 01:13:02,219 series by the way but I didn't like the 2049 01:13:07,370 --> 01:13:04,500 aspect of the the beings the ATS being 2050 01:13:09,649 --> 01:13:07,380 literally like like weird scary 2051 01:13:12,590 --> 01:13:09,659 monstrous creatures that like physically 2052 01:13:13,850 --> 01:13:12,600 infect your body and they did dig into 2053 01:13:16,310 --> 01:13:13,860 you and they're weird looking creatures 2054 01:13:17,330 --> 01:13:16,320 like alien like it was it was bad and 2055 01:13:18,950 --> 01:13:17,340 that was the aspect they didn't like 2056 01:13:21,410 --> 01:13:18,960 they said that's not how it works that's 2057 01:13:22,850 --> 01:13:21,420 what they told him and he didn't care he 2058 01:13:25,250 --> 01:13:22,860 kicked him out of his party 2059 01:13:26,689 --> 01:13:25,260 long story short that's essentially what 2060 01:13:28,550 --> 01:13:26,699 I from what I understand about how he 2061 01:13:31,189 --> 01:13:28,560 got the inspiration for that TV series 2062 01:13:34,669 --> 01:13:31,199 was from some inside knowledge not not 2063 01:13:36,590 --> 01:13:34,679 not I guess he clearly dramatized it but 2064 01:13:39,110 --> 01:13:36,600 that he got the idea of the ETS in the 2065 01:13:40,930 --> 01:13:39,120 in the contract from from Insider 2066 01:13:43,250 --> 01:13:40,940 information right 2067 01:13:45,169 --> 01:13:43,260 okay it's not verifiable I don't think 2068 01:13:46,729 --> 01:13:45,179 it's verifiable because he's from like 2069 01:13:48,229 --> 01:13:46,739 the time of Eisenhower there was 2070 01:13:50,090 --> 01:13:48,239 supposedly an agreement where they could 2071 01:13:51,830 --> 01:13:50,100 abduct so many people and this and that 2072 01:13:53,810 --> 01:13:51,840 but interesting thing somebody did a 2073 01:13:55,490 --> 01:13:53,820 study and I'm trying to it might have 2074 01:13:56,990 --> 01:13:55,500 been Daryl Sims because he's very much 2075 01:14:00,050 --> 01:13:57,000 an investigator and he's been looking at 2076 01:14:02,209 --> 01:14:00,060 UFOs and data for years and years but I 2077 01:14:04,310 --> 01:14:02,219 think he basically said that when you 2078 01:14:07,130 --> 01:14:04,320 take the number of missing persons in 2079 01:14:08,630 --> 01:14:07,140 America in a year and you remove all the 2080 01:14:10,310 --> 01:14:08,640 variables the ones that are found the 2081 01:14:12,709 --> 01:14:10,320 ones that aren't or everything else 2082 01:14:15,590 --> 01:14:12,719 there's I think the number tossed around 2083 01:14:19,010 --> 01:14:15,600 was like 48 000 or 60 000 people 2084 01:14:21,410 --> 01:14:19,020 supposedly Eisenhower agreed could be 2085 01:14:23,450 --> 01:14:21,420 played with in a year in exchange for 2086 01:14:25,790 --> 01:14:23,460 Tech right but he goes when you filter 2087 01:14:28,030 --> 01:14:25,800 down these missing person reports you're 2088 01:14:31,250 --> 01:14:28,040 left with pretty much 48 000 people that 2089 01:14:33,830 --> 01:14:31,260 just go nowhere they're like every case 2090 01:14:36,770 --> 01:14:33,840 has some evidence and some trail but 2091 01:14:38,930 --> 01:14:36,780 these people just flat out vanish and so 2092 01:14:40,850 --> 01:14:38,940 there's they're I guess summary of that 2093 01:14:43,430 --> 01:14:40,860 is that there's something to that that 2094 01:14:45,530 --> 01:14:43,440 there was an agreement made who knows 2095 01:14:48,110 --> 01:14:45,540 but it's interesting to hear anyway 2096 01:14:49,490 --> 01:14:48,120 I'm I'm I you know I appreciate you you 2097 01:14:51,290 --> 01:14:49,500 guys give me that feedback because both 2098 01:14:54,410 --> 01:14:51,300 you have different perspectives I don't 2099 01:14:57,050 --> 01:14:54,420 know what to believe I I think that if 2100 01:14:58,729 --> 01:14:57,060 it is true man the government's got some 2101 01:15:00,350 --> 01:14:58,739 answers they got some they gotta answer 2102 01:15:01,490 --> 01:15:00,360 some questions they gotta answer some 2103 01:15:03,590 --> 01:15:01,500 questions 2104 01:15:06,169 --> 01:15:03,600 um if it's not true man there are some 2105 01:15:08,330 --> 01:15:06,179 pretty you know reputable people that 2106 01:15:09,950 --> 01:15:08,340 are saying that it is and they have some 2107 01:15:11,510 --> 01:15:09,960 questions to answer like what they're 2108 01:15:13,850 --> 01:15:11,520 saying that's they're obviously saying 2109 01:15:15,169 --> 01:15:13,860 somebody said that this happened I know 2110 01:15:17,390 --> 01:15:15,179 someone that said that this happened and 2111 01:15:19,550 --> 01:15:17,400 they trust these people but again if 2112 01:15:21,410 --> 01:15:19,560 it's true well that's without the 2113 01:15:22,910 --> 01:15:21,420 American people's consent you know 2114 01:15:24,290 --> 01:15:22,920 making a deal with a race of beings 2115 01:15:26,510 --> 01:15:24,300 without the American people's consent 2116 01:15:28,250 --> 01:15:26,520 come on that is a that's that's just the 2117 01:15:31,850 --> 01:15:28,260 lowest of the low 2118 01:15:34,070 --> 01:15:31,860 but yeah I was sorry that yeah I was 2119 01:15:36,350 --> 01:15:34,080 going to say marquis that uh you know 2120 01:15:38,689 --> 01:15:36,360 there might be some sliver of Truth 2121 01:15:40,610 --> 01:15:38,699 to what you know that story right they 2122 01:15:42,350 --> 01:15:40,620 might maybe Eisenhower did show up in 2123 01:15:44,390 --> 01:15:42,360 the desert maybe he saw a craft that we 2124 01:15:46,189 --> 01:15:44,400 had in our possession right maybe there 2125 01:15:47,810 --> 01:15:46,199 was a body that he observed you know 2126 01:15:50,090 --> 01:15:47,820 they're just here you go Mr President is 2127 01:15:51,950 --> 01:15:50,100 what we found uh that maybe there wasn't 2128 01:15:54,649 --> 01:15:51,960 a truce or anything like that that just 2129 01:15:56,030 --> 01:15:54,659 became the legend after the fact but I 2130 01:15:58,729 --> 01:15:56,040 think yeah there's probably some truth 2131 01:16:02,630 --> 01:15:58,739 to to that because it's lingered around 2132 01:16:04,490 --> 01:16:02,640 for however long now right so yeah I 2133 01:16:06,110 --> 01:16:04,500 don't want to dismiss it entirely that's 2134 01:16:08,570 --> 01:16:06,120 not what I'm saying but skeptical 2135 01:16:10,550 --> 01:16:08,580 skeptical yes is skeptical of it because 2136 01:16:12,530 --> 01:16:10,560 there's just not enough evidence there 2137 01:16:14,390 --> 01:16:12,540 to suggest that that actually did take 2138 01:16:16,070 --> 01:16:14,400 place right we can't prove it it's just 2139 01:16:18,410 --> 01:16:16,080 it is one of those things that you can't 2140 01:16:20,330 --> 01:16:18,420 prove but there's a lot of like you know 2141 01:16:23,510 --> 01:16:20,340 witness testimony that has that hasn't 2142 01:16:24,950 --> 01:16:23,520 come out officially like well 2143 01:16:27,229 --> 01:16:24,960 um I don't know if the disclosure 2144 01:16:29,750 --> 01:16:27,239 project uh they put out these witness 2145 01:16:31,850 --> 01:16:29,760 testimony a playlist on Stephen Griff's 2146 01:16:34,750 --> 01:16:31,860 YouTube channel he has a playlist of all 2147 01:16:37,910 --> 01:16:34,760 these these Witnesses we're talking 2148 01:16:40,010 --> 01:16:37,920 very very famous and important people in 2149 01:16:41,030 --> 01:16:40,020 the in the US and in the dod and the 2150 01:16:42,590 --> 01:16:41,040 government and the intelligence 2151 01:16:45,110 --> 01:16:42,600 community and one of them does mention 2152 01:16:47,930 --> 01:16:45,120 that encounter between he he says he 2153 01:16:49,610 --> 01:16:47,940 claims it is a legitimate 100 True 2154 01:16:52,850 --> 01:16:49,620 um in fact he gave a witness testimony 2155 01:16:54,830 --> 01:16:52,860 on it on camera that's been published so 2156 01:16:56,630 --> 01:16:54,840 if you uh maybe I'll if I can find that 2157 01:16:57,950 --> 01:16:56,640 by tomorrow I will put that in the show 2158 01:16:59,090 --> 01:16:57,960 notes if anybody wants to check it out 2159 01:17:00,830 --> 01:16:59,100 you can check it out it's really 2160 01:17:04,250 --> 01:17:00,840 interesting I think the whole playlist 2161 01:17:05,510 --> 01:17:04,260 of the Witnesses are really interesting 2162 01:17:09,290 --> 01:17:05,520 so 2163 01:17:11,750 --> 01:17:09,300 question that I have 2164 01:17:14,930 --> 01:17:11,760 um so Gary Gary Nolan is asked by Ross 2165 01:17:17,090 --> 01:17:14,940 coldheart what is the phenomena 2166 01:17:19,490 --> 01:17:17,100 and he says you know I wish I knew and 2167 01:17:21,590 --> 01:17:19,500 of all the people I've spoken to 2168 01:17:24,350 --> 01:17:21,600 um with on the inside there is very 2169 01:17:26,750 --> 01:17:24,360 little unanimity about what it is except 2170 01:17:28,729 --> 01:17:26,760 that whatever it is seems to be so far 2171 01:17:32,030 --> 01:17:28,739 Advanced from us that it Beggars 2172 01:17:34,430 --> 01:17:32,040 understanding and Ross coldheart says so 2173 01:17:36,709 --> 01:17:34,440 you don't think it's human the phenomena 2174 01:17:39,590 --> 01:17:36,719 one from phenomena and Gary Nolan says 2175 01:17:42,169 --> 01:17:39,600 oh I'm sure it's not human which is a 2176 01:17:44,870 --> 01:17:42,179 pretty bold statement and Ross says is 2177 01:17:47,450 --> 01:17:44,880 it intelligent and Gary Nolan says yes 2178 01:17:49,550 --> 01:17:47,460 it certainly acts like it and in some 2179 01:17:52,070 --> 01:17:49,560 cases it seems to have a sense of humor 2180 01:17:55,610 --> 01:17:52,080 Sarah says so Gary the implications of 2181 01:17:57,350 --> 01:17:55,620 what you're saying there are enormous or 2182 01:17:58,669 --> 01:17:57,360 they're enormous aren't they you're 2183 01:18:00,169 --> 01:17:58,679 suggesting that there is a highly 2184 01:18:02,209 --> 01:18:00,179 Advanced civilization that is 2185 01:18:04,970 --> 01:18:02,219 intelligent it's not human and it's real 2186 01:18:07,310 --> 01:18:04,980 and Gary says yeah I'm almost I almost 2187 01:18:11,030 --> 01:18:07,320 hesitate to call it a civilization a 2188 01:18:12,830 --> 01:18:11,040 civilization implies a law um a lot of 2189 01:18:14,930 --> 01:18:12,840 interacting parts that are moving 2190 01:18:17,390 --> 01:18:14,940 towards some sort of goal I couldn't 2191 01:18:19,729 --> 01:18:17,400 even uh say that that that's what it is 2192 01:18:22,370 --> 01:18:19,739 being observed or it's something like 2193 01:18:24,169 --> 01:18:22,380 that now that's a that's there's a lot 2194 01:18:25,910 --> 01:18:24,179 packed into that the first thing is he's 2195 01:18:27,649 --> 01:18:25,920 saying it's obviously a non-human 2196 01:18:30,050 --> 01:18:27,659 intelligence bottom line that it is 2197 01:18:31,669 --> 01:18:30,060 intelligent it's not human and that it 2198 01:18:34,070 --> 01:18:31,679 has it in some cases it has a sense of 2199 01:18:35,630 --> 01:18:34,080 humor and he can't even describe the 2200 01:18:37,090 --> 01:18:35,640 idea of it having being a part of a 2201 01:18:41,930 --> 01:18:37,100 civilization 2202 01:18:45,110 --> 01:18:41,940 like to me I'm floored he that to me is 2203 01:18:47,390 --> 01:18:45,120 like it's enough to give me a clearer 2204 01:18:49,370 --> 01:18:47,400 picture of what's going on here it's not 2205 01:18:50,990 --> 01:18:49,380 a drone it's not balloons it's not 2206 01:18:54,530 --> 01:18:51,000 balloon like entities it's not this it's 2207 01:18:57,050 --> 01:18:54,540 not that it is a non-human intelligence 2208 01:18:58,430 --> 01:18:57,060 part of what would we would we think 2209 01:19:00,229 --> 01:18:58,440 it's a civilization but it's not even 2210 01:19:04,130 --> 01:19:00,239 that because it's not acting like a 2211 01:19:06,709 --> 01:19:04,140 unified a unified civilization that that 2212 01:19:10,550 --> 01:19:06,719 kind of leaves the the implications of 2213 01:19:12,830 --> 01:19:10,560 what it is open to so many things what 2214 01:19:15,169 --> 01:19:12,840 do you guys think about that to me it 2215 01:19:17,630 --> 01:19:15,179 sounds like it's doesn't seem civilized 2216 01:19:20,030 --> 01:19:17,640 or organized because it's from many 2217 01:19:22,550 --> 01:19:20,040 different sources maybe each of those 2218 01:19:24,290 --> 01:19:22,560 sources that is visiting us has their 2219 01:19:27,229 --> 01:19:24,300 own sense of organization and 2220 01:19:28,790 --> 01:19:27,239 civilization but and that kind of fits 2221 01:19:30,950 --> 01:19:28,800 in with what a lot of people are saying 2222 01:19:32,930 --> 01:19:30,960 about different species or different 2223 01:19:35,270 --> 01:19:32,940 looking creatures or whatever they are 2224 01:19:38,030 --> 01:19:35,280 so they don't seem to be organized 2225 01:19:40,370 --> 01:19:38,040 because the events are so varied and so 2226 01:19:42,410 --> 01:19:40,380 random and the stories are like night 2227 01:19:43,669 --> 01:19:42,420 and day different because I think we're 2228 01:19:46,130 --> 01:19:43,679 interacting with multiple different 2229 01:19:49,130 --> 01:19:46,140 sources of this I don't think it's one 2230 01:19:51,530 --> 01:19:49,140 entity one species one interdimensional 2231 01:19:53,570 --> 01:19:51,540 whatever it is I think it's everything 2232 01:19:56,390 --> 01:19:53,580 and everything all at once essentially 2233 01:19:58,669 --> 01:19:56,400 you know so that's my thoughts on it 2234 01:20:01,669 --> 01:19:58,679 I would agree with Louis I think that 2235 01:20:03,770 --> 01:20:01,679 you know the most laughable question in 2236 01:20:06,950 --> 01:20:03,780 the future that will laugh at the most 2237 01:20:09,229 --> 01:20:06,960 is are we alone in the universe I think 2238 01:20:11,149 --> 01:20:09,239 once we find out exactly that you know 2239 01:20:13,250 --> 01:20:11,159 not just what's on the other planets but 2240 01:20:15,530 --> 01:20:13,260 the inter-dimensional is there time 2241 01:20:17,630 --> 01:20:15,540 travel possibilities right where 2242 01:20:20,330 --> 01:20:17,640 entities you know us from the Futures 2243 01:20:22,910 --> 01:20:20,340 when we change completely biologically 2244 01:20:24,890 --> 01:20:22,920 can come back and check things out and 2245 01:20:27,470 --> 01:20:24,900 see our Origins and maybe try to take 2246 01:20:29,270 --> 01:20:27,480 something with us in the future that's 2247 01:20:31,310 --> 01:20:29,280 all possible at this point like we're 2248 01:20:33,649 --> 01:20:31,320 not dismissing it the thing is with 2249 01:20:35,570 --> 01:20:33,659 studying this this phenomenon you can 2250 01:20:38,330 --> 01:20:35,580 almost create a college or university 2251 01:20:40,010 --> 01:20:38,340 course like a four-year course when you 2252 01:20:42,130 --> 01:20:40,020 would get your Masters because you have 2253 01:20:45,110 --> 01:20:42,140 so many different 2254 01:20:47,270 --> 01:20:45,120 aspects of the phenomenon to study and 2255 01:20:50,689 --> 01:20:47,280 and try to understand it because it fits 2256 01:20:54,110 --> 01:20:50,699 somehow in the whole puzzle that is this 2257 01:20:55,790 --> 01:20:54,120 this phenomenon and we often say on the 2258 01:20:57,830 --> 01:20:55,800 podcast it's like getting little pieces 2259 01:20:59,570 --> 01:20:57,840 of the puzzle right and you start 2260 01:21:00,770 --> 01:20:59,580 stacking them up you don't have the 2261 01:21:02,510 --> 01:21:00,780 complete pictures yet but you're 2262 01:21:04,189 --> 01:21:02,520 starting to see something form 2263 01:21:06,110 --> 01:21:04,199 and over time you're getting more and 2264 01:21:08,390 --> 01:21:06,120 more pieces of the puzzle and you start 2265 01:21:09,530 --> 01:21:08,400 seeing an image there and that's exactly 2266 01:21:11,330 --> 01:21:09,540 what's taking place that's what 2267 01:21:13,430 --> 01:21:11,340 disclosure is is just give us more 2268 01:21:14,990 --> 01:21:13,440 pieces to the puzzle you don't need to 2269 01:21:17,270 --> 01:21:15,000 know the whole thing we can piece it 2270 01:21:19,550 --> 01:21:17,280 together ourselves but at least start 2271 01:21:22,370 --> 01:21:19,560 getting enough of a of of a puzzle going 2272 01:21:24,890 --> 01:21:22,380 if I stopped using the word puzzle 2273 01:21:26,990 --> 01:21:24,900 um to uh basically establish an image 2274 01:21:28,850 --> 01:21:27,000 and so we could all understand that 2275 01:21:31,669 --> 01:21:28,860 maybe there's something above our heads 2276 01:21:33,470 --> 01:21:31,679 that is way past our pay grade we won't 2277 01:21:36,530 --> 01:21:33,480 understand it but at least be aware of 2278 01:21:39,229 --> 01:21:36,540 it and acknowledge it and maybe that 2279 01:21:42,050 --> 01:21:39,239 might lead us to something better 2280 01:21:44,630 --> 01:21:42,060 it's data there um I believe it's Jack 2281 01:21:48,590 --> 01:21:44,640 Gary Nolan said Jacque Valley told him 2282 01:21:49,910 --> 01:21:48,600 to stick to the data because it talk 2283 01:21:52,010 --> 01:21:49,920 about the data focus on the data because 2284 01:21:53,390 --> 01:21:52,020 a lot of times when you know he said he 2285 01:21:56,450 --> 01:21:53,400 said you know he's made these comments 2286 01:21:58,010 --> 01:21:56,460 and people's like me I'm guilty we we 2287 01:22:00,770 --> 01:21:58,020 stick to these comments that he makes 2288 01:22:03,110 --> 01:22:00,780 you know like oh you know I I'm he says 2289 01:22:04,850 --> 01:22:03,120 I'm certain it's it's not human right I 2290 01:22:06,709 --> 01:22:04,860 stick to that when he says you know we 2291 01:22:08,390 --> 01:22:06,719 can look at these these beings somewhere 2292 01:22:11,330 --> 01:22:08,400 on the spectrum between on in that same 2293 01:22:14,030 --> 01:22:11,340 documentary Angels demons and God well 2294 01:22:15,350 --> 01:22:14,040 holy crap like you just you just told us 2295 01:22:16,669 --> 01:22:15,360 that not that they're Angel's demons and 2296 01:22:18,890 --> 01:22:16,679 God but that we're looking at them like 2297 01:22:21,110 --> 01:22:18,900 they're on that spectrum that they are 2298 01:22:23,750 --> 01:22:21,120 god-like that they have been God like to 2299 01:22:25,669 --> 01:22:23,760 us and they've always been that way 2300 01:22:27,709 --> 01:22:25,679 and so the implications of that are just 2301 01:22:29,270 --> 01:22:27,719 profound and so I stick to them and I 2302 01:22:31,189 --> 01:22:29,280 kind of you know and he was he was told 2303 01:22:32,930 --> 01:22:31,199 you got to be careful because when you 2304 01:22:34,910 --> 01:22:32,940 do that essentially people will do 2305 01:22:36,709 --> 01:22:34,920 people like myself will be like yep it's 2306 01:22:38,450 --> 01:22:36,719 aliens we know for a fact Gary no one 2307 01:22:39,830 --> 01:22:38,460 said it's aliens I'm not saying that I 2308 01:22:41,930 --> 01:22:39,840 don't think that's fair to say but I 2309 01:22:43,550 --> 01:22:41,940 just think that that the statements when 2310 01:22:45,590 --> 01:22:43,560 they when he's looking at data that we 2311 01:22:47,689 --> 01:22:45,600 can't see some that we can't see but 2312 01:22:49,729 --> 01:22:47,699 some that we can't see he's saying that 2313 01:22:53,330 --> 01:22:49,739 based off the data and it's a scientist 2314 01:22:56,209 --> 01:22:53,340 a reputable a very famous a very very uh 2315 01:22:58,910 --> 01:22:56,219 wealth you know established scientist is 2316 01:23:01,250 --> 01:22:58,920 saying when I look at this data it tells 2317 01:23:03,709 --> 01:23:01,260 me that there is something that's not 2318 01:23:05,750 --> 01:23:03,719 just a balloon or drone it's not human 2319 01:23:07,790 --> 01:23:05,760 but it's intelligent and it's 2320 01:23:09,709 --> 01:23:07,800 interacting with Humanity so that's kind 2321 01:23:10,430 --> 01:23:09,719 of how I see these these comments these 2322 01:23:14,149 --> 01:23:10,440 things 2323 01:23:16,610 --> 01:23:14,159 so when these guys make a comment they 2324 01:23:18,709 --> 01:23:16,620 either they know or quickly find out 2325 01:23:20,689 --> 01:23:18,719 that people will hold them to it and 2326 01:23:22,669 --> 01:23:20,699 right it's broken telephone in fact even 2327 01:23:25,070 --> 01:23:22,679 Ross coaltart as much as he hates the 2328 01:23:27,050 --> 01:23:25,080 world of UFO Twitter that is his domain 2329 01:23:28,490 --> 01:23:27,060 right and uh he put an interesting 2330 01:23:31,130 --> 01:23:28,500 comment out the other day something to 2331 01:23:33,169 --> 01:23:31,140 do with ancient civilization and he was 2332 01:23:35,390 --> 01:23:33,179 like you know look how precisely these 2333 01:23:37,430 --> 01:23:35,400 Stones were machined even our greatest 2334 01:23:39,590 --> 01:23:37,440 industrial lathes couldn't do it like 2335 01:23:41,450 --> 01:23:39,600 that to today today's standards and 2336 01:23:43,310 --> 01:23:41,460 somebody said you know Ross it's real 2337 01:23:45,290 --> 01:23:43,320 convenient to just slip aliens in there 2338 01:23:48,470 --> 01:23:45,300 whenever you feel like it and he's like 2339 01:23:50,750 --> 01:23:48,480 I'd never even said aliens like read my 2340 01:23:52,130 --> 01:23:50,760 post but because you know that he's in 2341 01:23:54,229 --> 01:23:52,140 the field and likes to write about it 2342 01:23:56,450 --> 01:23:54,239 talk about it people just automatically 2343 01:23:59,390 --> 01:23:56,460 connect dots he did not even say that 2344 01:24:01,850 --> 01:23:59,400 but that person read Ross goldthart 2345 01:24:03,950 --> 01:24:01,860 saying aliens made this structure and 2346 01:24:06,169 --> 01:24:03,960 it's not at all even in his writing so 2347 01:24:08,149 --> 01:24:06,179 when you become known for something your 2348 01:24:09,530 --> 01:24:08,159 work gets twisted same with Gary Nolan 2349 01:24:11,450 --> 01:24:09,540 there's a rumor going around the 2350 01:24:13,370 --> 01:24:11,460 internet that him and kit green are 2351 01:24:16,669 --> 01:24:13,380 working on some kind of a DNA activated 2352 01:24:19,310 --> 01:24:16,679 yeah I just heard about that denies that 2353 01:24:20,750 --> 01:24:19,320 you can quote Gary yeah let me pull up 2354 01:24:22,430 --> 01:24:20,760 the Tweet the Tweet so that we can 2355 01:24:25,010 --> 01:24:22,440 officially say that because he denied 2356 01:24:28,370 --> 01:24:25,020 that on he goes nope I never said that 2357 01:24:31,250 --> 01:24:28,380 nor did cat so flat out that is not true 2358 01:24:32,990 --> 01:24:31,260 but this stuff gets out there and then 2359 01:24:35,030 --> 01:24:33,000 it starts being passed around it's like 2360 01:24:36,890 --> 01:24:35,040 like high school you hear a rumor do you 2361 01:24:38,810 --> 01:24:36,900 hear that David Becky broke up yeah I 2362 01:24:40,550 --> 01:24:38,820 heard that did you hear why next thing 2363 01:24:42,050 --> 01:24:40,560 you notice this gigantic story and 2364 01:24:45,229 --> 01:24:42,060 Hollywood is full of that nonsense 2365 01:24:46,970 --> 01:24:45,239 that's what tabloid media is and uh it's 2366 01:24:49,189 --> 01:24:46,980 kind of it's easy to happen I think 2367 01:24:52,729 --> 01:24:49,199 because of who these people are because 2368 01:24:54,169 --> 01:24:52,739 they put a lot of content but I think we 2369 01:24:56,510 --> 01:24:54,179 need to be careful now more than ever 2370 01:24:59,149 --> 01:24:56,520 where the information comes from and 2371 01:25:01,550 --> 01:24:59,159 what we take as facts even on these type 2372 01:25:04,450 --> 01:25:01,560 of shows a lot of podcasts out there a 2373 01:25:07,910 --> 01:25:04,460 lot of videos they have some very 2374 01:25:10,070 --> 01:25:07,920 outstanding claims don't get too wrapped 2375 01:25:11,750 --> 01:25:10,080 up in everything that's said everyone 2376 01:25:14,570 --> 01:25:11,760 has good intentions they want to make 2377 01:25:16,550 --> 01:25:14,580 entertaining programs it's not always 2378 01:25:18,709 --> 01:25:16,560 factual now there's a lot of very good 2379 01:25:20,689 --> 01:25:18,719 shows out there Marquis is one of them 2380 01:25:23,510 --> 01:25:20,699 we have some other affiliate programs we 2381 01:25:26,450 --> 01:25:23,520 like but be careful some people drop 2382 01:25:28,669 --> 01:25:26,460 data like it's fact like well you heard 2383 01:25:30,350 --> 01:25:28,679 that there's you know such and such and 2384 01:25:31,550 --> 01:25:30,360 such and such and people go oh yeah I 2385 01:25:33,770 --> 01:25:31,560 didn't know that next thing you know 2386 01:25:36,050 --> 01:25:33,780 you're telling people as if this is like 2387 01:25:37,910 --> 01:25:36,060 provable stuff and there's nothing to 2388 01:25:39,649 --> 01:25:37,920 validate it so be very careful now more 2389 01:25:42,410 --> 01:25:39,659 than ever is my advice 2390 01:25:43,310 --> 01:25:42,420 he said neither I nor could said that at 2391 01:25:44,570 --> 01:25:43,320 all 2392 01:25:46,310 --> 01:25:44,580 um and it was like that they were 2393 01:25:48,350 --> 01:25:46,320 developing a they were working with a 2394 01:25:51,970 --> 01:25:48,360 group of scientists who were trying to 2395 01:25:54,830 --> 01:25:51,980 essentially create a way find a way to 2396 01:25:56,570 --> 01:25:54,840 enhance human psychic abilities because 2397 01:25:59,030 --> 01:25:56,580 because what's been what's been 2398 01:26:00,890 --> 01:25:59,040 speculated is that based off the data 2399 01:26:02,709 --> 01:26:00,900 there is based off of actually 2400 01:26:05,209 --> 01:26:02,719 observation of human the DNA of 2401 01:26:07,250 --> 01:26:05,219 experiences and abductees there's 2402 01:26:08,750 --> 01:26:07,260 something different about abductees or 2403 01:26:10,870 --> 01:26:08,760 experiencers 2404 01:26:13,790 --> 01:26:10,880 um that they have essentially increased 2405 01:26:15,709 --> 01:26:13,800 increased intuition in life and they 2406 01:26:17,750 --> 01:26:15,719 make decisions based off intuition but 2407 01:26:20,450 --> 01:26:17,760 they're highly effective they're very 2408 01:26:23,510 --> 01:26:20,460 very highly effective but that that was 2409 01:26:25,250 --> 01:26:23,520 completely rejected by by Gary Nolan he 2410 01:26:26,510 --> 01:26:25,260 said it's not true I can't find a tweet 2411 01:26:27,950 --> 01:26:26,520 and I can't go through school through 2412 01:26:29,149 --> 01:26:27,960 Twitter for the next hour trying to find 2413 01:26:31,129 --> 01:26:29,159 it because there's so much stuff going 2414 01:26:33,229 --> 01:26:31,139 on so fast I can't pull it up but yeah 2415 01:26:34,729 --> 01:26:33,239 it's it's I think that's ridiculous it's 2416 01:26:36,770 --> 01:26:34,739 it's unfortunate that that happens 2417 01:26:38,330 --> 01:26:36,780 because the ace Ross coldheart and Gary 2418 01:26:40,370 --> 01:26:38,340 Nolan spend a lot of time defending 2419 01:26:41,990 --> 01:26:40,380 their comments and defending their their 2420 01:26:44,510 --> 01:26:42,000 hypotheses and they're in their you know 2421 01:26:45,709 --> 01:26:44,520 their ideas about this this field and I 2422 01:26:46,850 --> 01:26:45,719 think it's ridiculous that some of the 2423 01:26:48,830 --> 01:26:46,860 people that have put stuff out there 2424 01:26:50,209 --> 01:26:48,840 claim to be people who want disclosure 2425 01:26:51,470 --> 01:26:50,219 themselves 2426 01:26:54,410 --> 01:26:51,480 some of the people that put stuff out 2427 01:26:56,209 --> 01:26:54,420 there have less to offer to this entire 2428 01:26:58,010 --> 01:26:56,219 movement this disclosure movement or 2429 01:27:00,229 --> 01:26:58,020 whatever than what people like Gary 2430 01:27:01,490 --> 01:27:00,239 Nolan who to us is very recent have and 2431 01:27:03,470 --> 01:27:01,500 they've been and the people that are 2432 01:27:05,570 --> 01:27:03,480 that are making these these uh clearly 2433 01:27:07,850 --> 01:27:05,580 debunking uh comments they've been 2434 01:27:09,649 --> 01:27:07,860 around for decades some of them so um 2435 01:27:10,850 --> 01:27:09,659 and again I I will not mention any names 2436 01:27:12,470 --> 01:27:10,860 but if you guys want to throw some 2437 01:27:13,689 --> 01:27:12,480 people in there I mean you can say 2438 01:27:15,590 --> 01:27:13,699 whatever you want 2439 01:27:17,090 --> 01:27:15,600 we're going to get into the kind of the 2440 01:27:18,290 --> 01:27:17,100 funner part where we're not it's not as 2441 01:27:20,090 --> 01:27:18,300 structured at this point for we're going 2442 01:27:21,590 --> 01:27:20,100 to talk more about just kind of what you 2443 01:27:23,030 --> 01:27:21,600 guys are doing and what's what you think 2444 01:27:24,290 --> 01:27:23,040 about what's going on and things that 2445 01:27:25,490 --> 01:27:24,300 people have said it's going to be a 2446 01:27:26,629 --> 01:27:25,500 little bit looser a little bit more of a 2447 01:27:28,070 --> 01:27:26,639 conversational stuff from this point 2448 01:27:30,830 --> 01:27:28,080 forward I wanted to get those comments 2449 01:27:33,229 --> 01:27:30,840 and those um those quotes out so we can 2450 01:27:36,229 --> 01:27:33,239 kind of set the pace for how you know I 2451 01:27:37,970 --> 01:27:36,239 believe and my belief is changing there 2452 01:27:39,470 --> 01:27:37,980 is no I don't have a definitive belief 2453 01:27:41,450 --> 01:27:39,480 about the phenomena I used to think it 2454 01:27:43,490 --> 01:27:41,460 was Angels and Demons right that it was 2455 01:27:45,470 --> 01:27:43,500 a there was one phenomena that they were 2456 01:27:46,850 --> 01:27:45,480 angels and demons that it was biblical 2457 01:27:49,010 --> 01:27:46,860 because I'm a Christian I'm a Christian 2458 01:27:50,990 --> 01:27:49,020 I'm a Bible believing Christian however 2459 01:27:53,030 --> 01:27:51,000 I don't believe like Allah lot of people 2460 01:27:54,229 --> 01:27:53,040 believe especially in the U.S I mean 2461 01:27:56,390 --> 01:27:54,239 these I don't know what people I believe 2462 01:27:57,950 --> 01:27:56,400 in love I believe in compassion I 2463 01:28:01,310 --> 01:27:57,960 believe in altruism I believe in sound 2464 01:28:03,770 --> 01:28:01,320 snakes no I do not I'm not I don't drink 2465 01:28:05,570 --> 01:28:03,780 poison I don't you know I mean come on 2466 01:28:11,629 --> 01:28:05,580 man like you know I I don't you're 2467 01:28:16,430 --> 01:28:14,510 well well I I'm not I want to 2468 01:28:18,290 --> 01:28:16,440 allow whether it be a snake or or my my 2469 01:28:20,990 --> 01:28:18,300 lady I don't want to die either way so 2470 01:28:23,209 --> 01:28:21,000 I'll stay away from The Orchards 2471 01:28:25,910 --> 01:28:23,219 but yeah I mean 2472 01:28:27,290 --> 01:28:25,920 but now there's just the more and more 2473 01:28:29,629 --> 01:28:27,300 that I learn 2474 01:28:31,370 --> 01:28:29,639 Ed I can't I think maybe there's angels 2475 01:28:33,649 --> 01:28:31,380 I think Angels and Demons plays into it 2476 01:28:35,450 --> 01:28:33,659 but I don't think that's all there is I 2477 01:28:37,910 --> 01:28:35,460 no longer think that that's the end-all 2478 01:28:39,770 --> 01:28:37,920 be-all of this phenomena something else 2479 01:28:42,290 --> 01:28:39,780 is going on something bigger something 2480 01:28:44,990 --> 01:28:42,300 more and to think that you know I 2481 01:28:47,090 --> 01:28:45,000 believe in a God I believe in a god 2482 01:28:48,470 --> 01:28:47,100 to think that I believe in a God and 2483 01:28:49,669 --> 01:28:48,480 that I believe that there are angels and 2484 01:28:52,610 --> 01:28:49,679 demons but I think there's something 2485 01:28:55,010 --> 01:28:52,620 bigger going on come on that to me it's 2486 01:28:56,750 --> 01:28:55,020 like it scares me but again that fear is 2487 01:28:58,610 --> 01:28:56,760 because I don't know it's not about 2488 01:29:01,490 --> 01:28:58,620 anything that I know it's about what I 2489 01:29:02,930 --> 01:29:01,500 don't know we fear the unknown and not 2490 01:29:08,090 --> 01:29:02,940 being in control 2491 01:29:09,950 --> 01:29:08,100 big part big part big part to play with 2492 01:29:11,570 --> 01:29:09,960 it yeah I mean I've heard people say all 2493 01:29:12,890 --> 01:29:11,580 the time the abductee phenomena I think 2494 01:29:14,510 --> 01:29:12,900 like you said Jason is I think it's more 2495 01:29:16,370 --> 01:29:14,520 important than the dods giving it credit 2496 01:29:17,870 --> 01:29:16,380 and I think they know that but they're 2497 01:29:19,490 --> 01:29:17,880 not publicly admitting that because in 2498 01:29:21,709 --> 01:29:19,500 the in the experience or phenomena 2499 01:29:24,050 --> 01:29:21,719 there's a story to be told there's also 2500 01:29:26,149 --> 01:29:24,060 this idea that like that they walk among 2501 01:29:28,250 --> 01:29:26,159 us that's something that's been talked 2502 01:29:30,350 --> 01:29:28,260 about a lot lately and there's been some 2503 01:29:31,610 --> 01:29:30,360 claims that because the ndaa there's 2504 01:29:32,629 --> 01:29:31,620 going to be whistleblowers that come out 2505 01:29:34,430 --> 01:29:32,639 this year because there's that 2506 01:29:36,229 --> 01:29:34,440 whistleblower protection it's not 2507 01:29:37,910 --> 01:29:36,239 complete it's not perfect but it does 2508 01:29:40,430 --> 01:29:37,920 say something at least within the 2509 01:29:41,689 --> 01:29:40,440 parameters of these structures the 2510 01:29:43,430 --> 01:29:41,699 intelligence Community the dod the 2511 01:29:45,410 --> 01:29:43,440 military they're allowing they're 2512 01:29:48,110 --> 01:29:45,420 they're protecting people who are um 2513 01:29:50,689 --> 01:29:48,120 official who are whistleblowing in a 2514 01:29:53,510 --> 01:29:50,699 deep in a classified setting 2515 01:29:55,610 --> 01:29:53,520 um in a legal and appropriate way so no 2516 01:29:57,709 --> 01:29:55,620 Edward Snowden we were stealing files 2517 01:29:59,209 --> 01:29:57,719 and Publishing them to public but like 2518 01:30:01,490 --> 01:29:59,219 you're inside you see something and you 2519 01:30:04,129 --> 01:30:01,500 want to say something they protect those 2520 01:30:06,350 --> 01:30:04,139 people from any kind of questions what 2521 01:30:09,350 --> 01:30:06,360 do you guys think about that that per se 2522 01:30:11,750 --> 01:30:09,360 that kind of aspect of the uh the ndaa I 2523 01:30:13,970 --> 01:30:11,760 I think it's great that legally you 2524 01:30:16,790 --> 01:30:13,980 could go to a court of law and not lose 2525 01:30:18,470 --> 01:30:16,800 your job per se they would still make it 2526 01:30:20,330 --> 01:30:18,480 very difficult if if you went against 2527 01:30:22,850 --> 01:30:20,340 the Green something would still happen 2528 01:30:25,970 --> 01:30:22,860 you know that's just my personal opinion 2529 01:30:27,950 --> 01:30:25,980 there is no accident maybe well and even 2530 01:30:30,649 --> 01:30:27,960 though there is legal protection where's 2531 01:30:33,169 --> 01:30:30,659 the reputation protection airline pilots 2532 01:30:34,610 --> 01:30:33,179 Now where's their protection that my 2533 01:30:36,830 --> 01:30:34,620 colleagues are going to think I'm nuts 2534 01:30:39,770 --> 01:30:36,840 because I'm talking about UFO encounters 2535 01:30:41,390 --> 01:30:39,780 so they may legally you know be able to 2536 01:30:44,030 --> 01:30:41,400 sue their boss if they get wrongfully 2537 01:30:46,250 --> 01:30:44,040 let go but big companies like everybody 2538 01:30:47,930 --> 01:30:46,260 seems to have this kind of sort of 2539 01:30:50,209 --> 01:30:47,940 belief in the protection of like well 2540 01:30:52,070 --> 01:30:50,219 they can't fire you you know you've been 2541 01:30:53,870 --> 01:30:52,080 there 20 years they could fire your ass 2542 01:30:55,970 --> 01:30:53,880 right now write you a check and say here 2543 01:30:58,550 --> 01:30:55,980 you go we don't like you you're gone no 2544 01:31:00,410 --> 01:30:58,560 but there is no you need grounds or 2545 01:31:02,270 --> 01:31:00,420 probable cause that's if you're trying 2546 01:31:03,950 --> 01:31:02,280 to convict somebody of Murder in the 2547 01:31:06,770 --> 01:31:03,960 world of business and how governments 2548 01:31:08,090 --> 01:31:06,780 work you're with us or get lost and if 2549 01:31:10,129 --> 01:31:08,100 that involves writing a big fat check 2550 01:31:11,510 --> 01:31:10,139 they do it and you know they make you 2551 01:31:13,550 --> 01:31:11,520 sign that stuff when you take these 2552 01:31:16,129 --> 01:31:13,560 roles that your non-disclosure is right 2553 01:31:17,390 --> 01:31:16,139 from day one so and it's another point 2554 01:31:20,930 --> 01:31:17,400 of that where they're allowed to 2555 01:31:23,570 --> 01:31:20,940 disclose things in a legal way that does 2556 01:31:26,709 --> 01:31:23,580 not include uh things that are 2557 01:31:29,750 --> 01:31:26,719 um uh completely like um 2558 01:31:31,669 --> 01:31:29,760 programs yeah classified stuff there is 2559 01:31:33,950 --> 01:31:31,679 no legality behind revealing classified 2560 01:31:35,689 --> 01:31:33,960 information that's like treason so I 2561 01:31:38,450 --> 01:31:35,699 think it's a bunch of nonsense there is 2562 01:31:40,729 --> 01:31:38,460 no protection for these people they know 2563 01:31:42,410 --> 01:31:40,739 they're taking a risk and the taboo is 2564 01:31:44,870 --> 01:31:42,420 still there on your reputation even if 2565 01:31:46,970 --> 01:31:44,880 legally they can't fire you you're not 2566 01:31:48,350 --> 01:31:46,980 going to have that same level that you 2567 01:31:50,810 --> 01:31:48,360 would have had if you kept your motion 2568 01:31:52,430 --> 01:31:50,820 and I think getting blasted on social 2569 01:31:54,770 --> 01:31:52,440 media is keeping a lot of people quiet 2570 01:31:56,330 --> 01:31:54,780 and even guys like Ross coltar think the 2571 01:31:57,830 --> 01:31:56,340 same thing well Ryan Graves is 2572 01:31:59,629 --> 01:31:57,840 experiencing a lot of that now of course 2573 01:32:01,129 --> 01:31:59,639 with those big debunkers he's got his 2574 01:32:04,010 --> 01:32:01,139 podcast he's talking about even and 2575 01:32:05,510 --> 01:32:04,020 again even a commander David favor the 2576 01:32:08,330 --> 01:32:05,520 fact that we have American citizens 2577 01:32:10,370 --> 01:32:08,340 specifically who put a lot of focus on 2578 01:32:12,169 --> 01:32:10,380 the idea of page patriotism who are 2579 01:32:14,750 --> 01:32:12,179 disrespecting these these service 2580 01:32:17,689 --> 01:32:14,760 members who are they're risking their 2581 01:32:19,729 --> 01:32:17,699 social reputation and so forth by 2582 01:32:20,930 --> 01:32:19,739 talking about these things they're being 2583 01:32:22,370 --> 01:32:20,940 disrespectful they're not even they're 2584 01:32:24,770 --> 01:32:22,380 not looking at the data honestly they're 2585 01:32:26,510 --> 01:32:24,780 they're trying to find faults and 2586 01:32:28,550 --> 01:32:26,520 they're trying to find any alternative 2587 01:32:30,350 --> 01:32:28,560 explanation that isn't even part that's 2588 01:32:32,330 --> 01:32:30,360 not even you're they're jumping through 2589 01:32:34,430 --> 01:32:32,340 hoops to get to their conclusions like 2590 01:32:36,890 --> 01:32:34,440 balloons and teddy bears and so on and 2591 01:32:39,410 --> 01:32:36,900 so forth it is it's a sad it's sad I 2592 01:32:41,930 --> 01:32:39,420 don't I don't put a lot of faith in what 2593 01:32:44,930 --> 01:32:41,940 the dod is doing but I but I want to 2594 01:32:46,669 --> 01:32:44,940 give them a chance to to try because I 2595 01:32:48,410 --> 01:32:46,679 don't want to make it seem like we we've 2596 01:32:49,310 --> 01:32:48,420 you know they don't have a chance you 2597 01:32:51,110 --> 01:32:49,320 make them feel like they don't have a 2598 01:32:52,550 --> 01:32:51,120 chance and they'll treat us like they 2599 01:32:54,290 --> 01:32:52,560 don't have a chance like we don't have a 2600 01:32:55,430 --> 01:32:54,300 chance a disclosure because we're 2601 01:32:56,870 --> 01:32:55,440 accepting the idea that they're not 2602 01:33:00,110 --> 01:32:56,880 going to anyway but we shouldn't accept 2603 01:33:01,669 --> 01:33:00,120 that what I expect them to show us 2604 01:33:03,530 --> 01:33:01,679 something or we're gonna make a noise 2605 01:33:05,930 --> 01:33:03,540 that's what I want people to do I want 2606 01:33:07,490 --> 01:33:05,940 people to feel like no no no no not 2607 01:33:09,530 --> 01:33:07,500 they're not going to give us something 2608 01:33:12,110 --> 01:33:09,540 they better they better better give us 2609 01:33:14,030 --> 01:33:12,120 something because we vote we have a 2610 01:33:16,189 --> 01:33:14,040 voice we're on Twitter we're on Facebook 2611 01:33:18,350 --> 01:33:16,199 we're on social media we influence the 2612 01:33:20,629 --> 01:33:18,360 world we influence each other and if we 2613 01:33:23,149 --> 01:33:20,639 all collectively say no we we refuse to 2614 01:33:25,490 --> 01:33:23,159 accept this watered-down disclosure that 2615 01:33:26,930 --> 01:33:25,500 you're doing we want the truth I think 2616 01:33:28,070 --> 01:33:26,940 that's when we push him and push and 2617 01:33:31,129 --> 01:33:28,080 push until eventually they have no 2618 01:33:33,530 --> 01:33:31,139 choice if they do try to give us that 2619 01:33:35,570 --> 01:33:33,540 retraction in the in the you know the 2620 01:33:37,910 --> 01:33:35,580 the balloon explanations for five years 2621 01:33:39,709 --> 01:33:37,920 they've been doing it for 70 years very 2622 01:33:41,149 --> 01:33:39,719 successfully on something's different 2623 01:33:43,910 --> 01:33:41,159 this time though something is very 2624 01:33:46,669 --> 01:33:43,920 they're setting up apparatus a apparatus 2625 01:33:48,770 --> 01:33:46,679 to to really dig into this phenomena and 2626 01:33:50,030 --> 01:33:48,780 not just from a uh from a DOD and 2627 01:33:52,070 --> 01:33:50,040 government perspective but from a 2628 01:33:55,010 --> 01:33:52,080 civilian perspective Private Industry 2629 01:33:56,930 --> 01:33:55,020 they're they're you know uapx and you 2630 01:33:58,790 --> 01:33:56,940 know and now with this Enigma Labs that 2631 01:34:01,550 --> 01:33:58,800 I want to kind of talk about the Enigma 2632 01:34:04,850 --> 01:34:01,560 Labs I think is a very ambitious effort 2633 01:34:06,890 --> 01:34:04,860 it seems at least on paper 2634 01:34:10,070 --> 01:34:06,900 um they promise to or they they say that 2635 01:34:12,229 --> 01:34:10,080 their goal is to provide away a means 2636 01:34:15,169 --> 01:34:12,239 for people to submit their their 2637 01:34:17,570 --> 01:34:15,179 incidences and to use that as part of a 2638 01:34:20,090 --> 01:34:17,580 data collection and to treat this 2639 01:34:23,330 --> 01:34:20,100 phenomenon like data science to collect 2640 01:34:25,910 --> 01:34:23,340 as much data weather data sensor data 2641 01:34:28,490 --> 01:34:25,920 you know witness testimony as well as 2642 01:34:30,169 --> 01:34:28,500 what NASA's I guess NASA's data and 2643 01:34:31,790 --> 01:34:30,179 satellites and so on and so meteor 2644 01:34:33,530 --> 01:34:31,800 phenomena they're trying to collect all 2645 01:34:34,910 --> 01:34:33,540 this different data so that when they're 2646 01:34:36,950 --> 01:34:34,920 looking at these accounts they can 2647 01:34:38,689 --> 01:34:36,960 verify and as they say give a rating I 2648 01:34:42,229 --> 01:34:38,699 guess about whether or not that that 2649 01:34:43,729 --> 01:34:42,239 incident each incident is is VA is a 2650 01:34:46,669 --> 01:34:43,739 true incident 2651 01:34:48,830 --> 01:34:46,679 um I think that it is ambitious I think 2652 01:34:52,129 --> 01:34:48,840 that it that it's that the ideal is 2653 01:34:54,050 --> 01:34:52,139 great but I hear a lot of uh different 2654 01:34:55,669 --> 01:34:54,060 opinions about it you know a lot of 2655 01:34:56,810 --> 01:34:55,679 people are not they're very hesitant 2656 01:34:58,669 --> 01:34:56,820 because they're collecting data from 2657 01:35:00,649 --> 01:34:58,679 mufon they're sharing data with mufon 2658 01:35:02,209 --> 01:35:00,659 which I guess mufon wasn't supposed to 2659 01:35:03,470 --> 01:35:02,219 they were supposed to protect people's 2660 01:35:06,410 --> 01:35:03,480 information but if they're giving that 2661 01:35:08,090 --> 01:35:06,420 information to you to Enigma Labs 2662 01:35:10,570 --> 01:35:08,100 without their I mean you're talking 2663 01:35:13,370 --> 01:35:10,580 hundreds of thousands of people 2664 01:35:15,410 --> 01:35:13,380 their data is now being shared allegedly 2665 01:35:17,570 --> 01:35:15,420 going to be shared with Enigma Labs the 2666 01:35:19,370 --> 01:35:17,580 effort I think is good the Privacy yet 2667 01:35:22,370 --> 01:35:19,380 factor and and the and the intention 2668 01:35:25,310 --> 01:35:22,380 behind is questions 2669 01:35:27,189 --> 01:35:25,320 so that means yeah go ahead I was going 2670 01:35:30,350 --> 01:35:27,199 to say that being said we already have 2671 01:35:31,910 --> 01:35:30,360 compromised you know you look at your 2672 01:35:34,250 --> 01:35:31,920 phone for instance you think that it's 2673 01:35:36,530 --> 01:35:34,260 not spying on you're spying on you 2674 01:35:38,330 --> 01:35:36,540 um I had an Alexa here and it did not 2675 01:35:39,530 --> 01:35:38,340 last long because this one time I was 2676 01:35:41,750 --> 01:35:39,540 sitting on the computer and I was 2677 01:35:44,570 --> 01:35:41,760 cleaning the desk and I said to my wife 2678 01:35:46,790 --> 01:35:44,580 we need uh paper towel 2679 01:35:48,830 --> 01:35:46,800 next thing I know my phone's advertising 2680 01:35:51,470 --> 01:35:48,840 to me on Facebook Hey paper towels on 2681 01:35:53,090 --> 01:35:51,480 sale it's like what the hell like Alexa 2682 01:35:56,209 --> 01:35:53,100 totally told my phone that what I was 2683 01:35:58,250 --> 01:35:56,219 looking at right off but you have to dig 2684 01:35:59,570 --> 01:35:58,260 into the settings to turn that off but 2685 01:36:01,129 --> 01:35:59,580 that should yeah you can dig and dig 2686 01:36:03,169 --> 01:36:01,139 yeah but like I said they already have 2687 01:36:05,030 --> 01:36:03,179 all the information anyway so we're all 2688 01:36:07,129 --> 01:36:05,040 compromised if you got tick tock on your 2689 01:36:11,030 --> 01:36:07,139 phone China knows everything about you 2690 01:36:13,070 --> 01:36:11,040 right it's already done so it's 2691 01:36:13,910 --> 01:36:13,080 I find it funny when we're like oh no 2692 01:36:16,669 --> 01:36:13,920 they're going to take my information 2693 01:36:19,090 --> 01:36:16,679 about UFOs well it should be it's too 2694 01:36:21,169 --> 01:36:19,100 late and we should be talking about it 2695 01:36:22,729 --> 01:36:21,179 anyways this is something that everybody 2696 01:36:24,770 --> 01:36:22,739 needs to talk about like the close 2697 01:36:26,330 --> 01:36:24,780 encounters what I find funny is that 2698 01:36:27,950 --> 01:36:26,340 they're trying to do the satellites and 2699 01:36:31,189 --> 01:36:27,960 testing all that stuff 2700 01:36:33,649 --> 01:36:31,199 um but a lot of the times these UFOs if 2701 01:36:35,810 --> 01:36:33,659 they're legit messes with the equipment 2702 01:36:38,149 --> 01:36:35,820 will make something not work or it 2703 01:36:39,590 --> 01:36:38,159 doesn't even get picked up on radar or 2704 01:36:41,930 --> 01:36:39,600 or they have to hopefully change their 2705 01:36:43,450 --> 01:36:41,940 method of observation and the the type 2706 01:36:45,590 --> 01:36:43,460 of data that they're collecting because 2707 01:36:47,209 --> 01:36:45,600 their these things are operating 2708 01:36:50,629 --> 01:36:47,219 sometimes at frequencies different 2709 01:36:53,750 --> 01:36:50,639 frequencies or in infrared but not in 2710 01:36:56,570 --> 01:36:53,760 opt like visually optic um visible to 2711 01:36:59,090 --> 01:36:56,580 the eye or visible you know and it's 2712 01:37:01,310 --> 01:36:59,100 again it's you have to the data is more 2713 01:37:03,770 --> 01:37:01,320 complex tracking these things down is a 2714 01:37:05,750 --> 01:37:03,780 lot more complex than just sensor data 2715 01:37:07,790 --> 01:37:05,760 it's a lot more complex 2716 01:37:09,709 --> 01:37:07,800 yeah absolutely agree these are my 2717 01:37:11,090 --> 01:37:09,719 thoughts on Enigma Labs here and again 2718 01:37:12,950 --> 01:37:11,100 this is just based on what I've heard 2719 01:37:15,350 --> 01:37:12,960 what some of our connections are telling 2720 01:37:17,570 --> 01:37:15,360 us but essentially one second I lost 2721 01:37:19,430 --> 01:37:17,580 your audio here I can't hear either one 2722 01:37:21,770 --> 01:37:19,440 of you 2723 01:37:24,410 --> 01:37:21,780 oh not sure why 2724 01:37:26,149 --> 01:37:24,420 can you hear us now 2725 01:37:28,850 --> 01:37:26,159 um 2726 01:37:30,830 --> 01:37:28,860 what just happened 2727 01:37:31,970 --> 01:37:30,840 can you guys hear me yeah we can hear 2728 01:37:33,890 --> 01:37:31,980 you can hear me but I can't hear you 2729 01:37:35,450 --> 01:37:33,900 that's all I'd hold on one second let me 2730 01:37:38,030 --> 01:37:35,460 see 2731 01:37:39,050 --> 01:37:38,040 I'm connected I'm connected everything's 2732 01:37:41,770 --> 01:37:39,060 great 2733 01:37:44,570 --> 01:37:41,780 why is it doing this 2734 01:37:47,510 --> 01:37:44,580 there had to be something oh my God can 2735 01:37:49,729 --> 01:37:47,520 you unplug your headphones 2736 01:37:51,590 --> 01:37:49,739 let me see if I change the audio output 2737 01:37:55,310 --> 01:37:51,600 hold on one second 2738 01:37:58,629 --> 01:37:56,870 talk please 2739 01:38:01,430 --> 01:37:58,639 can you hear us now I can hear you now 2740 01:38:04,729 --> 01:38:01,440 wow the audio just stopped uh with the 2741 01:38:06,770 --> 01:38:04,739 headphones hold on let me see if I can 2742 01:38:08,990 --> 01:38:06,780 okay can you guys say something again 2743 01:38:10,430 --> 01:38:09,000 we're still here okay great so audio 2744 01:38:12,050 --> 01:38:10,440 effects sorry about that guys I'm gonna 2745 01:38:13,910 --> 01:38:12,060 we're just gonna keep going see the guy 2746 01:38:15,669 --> 01:38:13,920 this is that to Jason's point they know 2747 01:38:19,250 --> 01:38:15,679 what's going on their message 2748 01:38:21,950 --> 01:38:19,260 listening to us son's a gun here's my my 2749 01:38:23,750 --> 01:38:21,960 again just my brief opinion on Enigma 2750 01:38:25,370 --> 01:38:23,760 Labs you read the language on the 2751 01:38:28,070 --> 01:38:25,380 website it's like somebody went crazy 2752 01:38:30,050 --> 01:38:28,080 with the thesaurus or used an AI program 2753 01:38:32,270 --> 01:38:30,060 to write it it's not written in business 2754 01:38:34,189 --> 01:38:32,280 English it's not written in the same 2755 01:38:36,410 --> 01:38:34,199 flavor as Government speak 2756 01:38:38,870 --> 01:38:36,420 it's supposedly an agency that's 2757 01:38:40,610 --> 01:38:38,880 petitioning people to bring us your 2758 01:38:42,649 --> 01:38:40,620 requests and it's not even written in a 2759 01:38:45,169 --> 01:38:42,659 language that the average person would 2760 01:38:47,209 --> 01:38:45,179 want to do that there's not like we're 2761 01:38:49,370 --> 01:38:47,219 here to help there's none of that you go 2762 01:38:51,050 --> 01:38:49,380 to the about us page all it says is we 2763 01:38:54,890 --> 01:38:51,060 keep our membership private to ensure 2764 01:38:57,050 --> 01:38:54,900 our privacy number three they don't say 2765 01:38:58,970 --> 01:38:57,060 what they're using the information for 2766 01:39:00,470 --> 01:38:58,980 who they're sharing it with they won't 2767 01:39:01,790 --> 01:39:00,480 confirm or deny after working with the 2768 01:39:04,310 --> 01:39:01,800 government 2769 01:39:06,229 --> 01:39:04,320 um and I believe they I believe they 2770 01:39:08,510 --> 01:39:06,239 just recently confirmed that they work 2771 01:39:12,370 --> 01:39:08,520 with the Department of Defense and arrow 2772 01:39:17,270 --> 01:39:15,110 mufan is in bed with them nobody from 2773 01:39:19,610 --> 01:39:17,280 mufon that we've spoken to has confirmed 2774 01:39:22,610 --> 01:39:19,620 that as far as we know everybody's move 2775 01:39:25,610 --> 01:39:22,620 on case that was ever given privately is 2776 01:39:27,649 --> 01:39:25,620 still kept in confidence now Enigma on 2777 01:39:30,410 --> 01:39:27,659 the other hand is not giving you that 2778 01:39:32,330 --> 01:39:30,420 that guarantee to me it looks like 2779 01:39:34,129 --> 01:39:32,340 they've invented a glorified software 2780 01:39:37,270 --> 01:39:34,139 program that you can just pump 2781 01:39:40,250 --> 01:39:37,280 reportings into and it's going to assign 2782 01:39:44,030 --> 01:39:40,260 varying degrees of believability to it 2783 01:39:46,790 --> 01:39:44,040 so well this was a ce4 and this was a 2784 01:39:49,610 --> 01:39:46,800 ce1 so the ce4 will go higher than the 2785 01:39:52,850 --> 01:39:49,620 one it's like they're gonna discredit 2786 01:39:54,470 --> 01:39:52,860 some of the lower cases because the 2787 01:39:56,689 --> 01:39:54,480 person didn't see an alien or touch a 2788 01:39:58,550 --> 01:39:56,699 craft but it doesn't it doesn't you know 2789 01:40:00,709 --> 01:39:58,560 negate the fact that that was a very 2790 01:40:02,450 --> 01:40:00,719 important story in itself right so I 2791 01:40:04,669 --> 01:40:02,460 don't like the fact that they have a 2792 01:40:06,530 --> 01:40:04,679 glorified spreadsheet what are they 2793 01:40:08,270 --> 01:40:06,540 doing with the data and they're 2794 01:40:09,770 --> 01:40:08,280 basically saying just give us your 2795 01:40:11,270 --> 01:40:09,780 reports but not telling you what they're 2796 01:40:13,010 --> 01:40:11,280 going to do with it or who they are or 2797 01:40:15,169 --> 01:40:13,020 who they're going to share it with so 2798 01:40:17,450 --> 01:40:15,179 and the language is cryptic on the site 2799 01:40:19,010 --> 01:40:17,460 it's not very well done 2800 01:40:20,990 --> 01:40:19,020 um there's people that we've interviewed 2801 01:40:23,209 --> 01:40:21,000 on our show before we believe are 2802 01:40:25,189 --> 01:40:23,219 connected with it or and maybe even be 2803 01:40:28,310 --> 01:40:25,199 the ones writing the material on the 2804 01:40:30,410 --> 01:40:28,320 site it just seems like an ambitious the 2805 01:40:32,870 --> 01:40:30,420 site looks very professional Graphics 2806 01:40:35,510 --> 01:40:32,880 are great it just doesn't something 2807 01:40:37,970 --> 01:40:35,520 doesn't quite seem right about it it 2808 01:40:40,310 --> 01:40:37,980 looks like to me and Rumor Mill is it's 2809 01:40:43,189 --> 01:40:40,320 another Bigelow some billionaire with a 2810 01:40:44,629 --> 01:40:43,199 bunch of money who wants to do this who 2811 01:40:46,910 --> 01:40:44,639 already has other special access 2812 01:40:47,990 --> 01:40:46,920 programs that are being funded this is 2813 01:40:49,850 --> 01:40:48,000 the way you get money from the 2814 01:40:51,649 --> 01:40:49,860 government you set up one of these 2815 01:40:53,510 --> 01:40:51,659 things here's our mission here's how 2816 01:40:55,790 --> 01:40:53,520 we're going to do it the people that are 2817 01:40:58,430 --> 01:40:55,800 working in a contract basis with the 2818 01:41:00,410 --> 01:40:58,440 government know how they run so they 2819 01:41:02,510 --> 01:41:00,420 know how to keep this baby going whether 2820 01:41:05,149 --> 01:41:02,520 it's military contracts or intelligence 2821 01:41:06,890 --> 01:41:05,159 or anything else software so to me it 2822 01:41:08,990 --> 01:41:06,900 looks like a business it looks like 2823 01:41:10,729 --> 01:41:09,000 somebody trying to collect data 2824 01:41:13,250 --> 01:41:10,739 that they can use as a bargaining chip 2825 01:41:15,110 --> 01:41:13,260 or as a way to get funding you know you 2826 01:41:16,610 --> 01:41:15,120 go on LinkedIn and search Enigma Labs 2827 01:41:18,229 --> 01:41:16,620 it's like eight people none of them seem 2828 01:41:20,750 --> 01:41:18,239 to be related to each other any which 2829 01:41:22,129 --> 01:41:20,760 way shape or form uh you know Peter 2830 01:41:23,629 --> 01:41:22,139 Thiel I believe is a guy's name the 2831 01:41:26,510 --> 01:41:23,639 billionaire that's rumored to be behind 2832 01:41:28,550 --> 01:41:26,520 this I think it's a bunch of hype I 2833 01:41:30,709 --> 01:41:28,560 wouldn't trust it I don't often give my 2834 01:41:32,390 --> 01:41:30,719 opinion very strongly I would stay the 2835 01:41:34,310 --> 01:41:32,400 hell away from Enigma Labs you don't 2836 01:41:36,470 --> 01:41:34,320 want to tell us who you are what you're 2837 01:41:38,330 --> 01:41:36,480 doing with our information how it's 2838 01:41:40,790 --> 01:41:38,340 being scored the fact that I might pour 2839 01:41:42,590 --> 01:41:40,800 my heart out to you about what I saw and 2840 01:41:44,990 --> 01:41:42,600 how it affected me and your computer 2841 01:41:46,729 --> 01:41:45,000 kicks it out because it's not high 2842 01:41:49,550 --> 01:41:46,739 enough on your scale and you're not 2843 01:41:51,709 --> 01:41:49,560 telling me that my opinion stay stay the 2844 01:41:54,649 --> 01:41:51,719 hell away move on people have varying 2845 01:41:57,410 --> 01:41:54,659 opinions on mufon yes there are you know 2846 01:41:59,450 --> 01:41:57,420 politics within any big organization but 2847 01:42:01,970 --> 01:41:59,460 the boots on the ground investigators 2848 01:42:03,890 --> 01:42:01,980 those guys doing it for free and driving 2849 01:42:07,070 --> 01:42:03,900 and spending their own gas and doing all 2850 01:42:08,930 --> 01:42:07,080 this to take these reports seriously it 2851 01:42:12,290 --> 01:42:08,940 would be sad if that just got thrown 2852 01:42:14,090 --> 01:42:12,300 thrown away and not given the credit it 2853 01:42:16,729 --> 01:42:14,100 deserves so regardless of your opinion 2854 01:42:18,169 --> 01:42:16,739 of mufon at least they haven't and let's 2855 01:42:19,970 --> 01:42:18,179 be honest the government knows every 2856 01:42:21,950 --> 01:42:19,980 single file that's in mufan right okay 2857 01:42:24,050 --> 01:42:21,960 there's there's no Smoking Gun there's 2858 01:42:25,910 --> 01:42:24,060 no like oh [\h__\h] how did we let that get 2859 01:42:28,669 --> 01:42:25,920 oh why did we find that 40 years ago 2860 01:42:30,470 --> 01:42:28,679 they already know okay so but I just 2861 01:42:31,790 --> 01:42:30,480 don't like the fact that these people 2862 01:42:35,209 --> 01:42:31,800 want to come in with sort of this 2863 01:42:37,669 --> 01:42:35,219 cryptic light and uh and try to gain or 2864 01:42:39,530 --> 01:42:37,679 Garner for your your trust or your uh 2865 01:42:40,669 --> 01:42:39,540 your report you don't know who they are 2866 01:42:42,890 --> 01:42:40,679 you don't know what's being used with 2867 01:42:46,850 --> 01:42:42,900 that we're more conspiracy based than 2868 01:42:48,830 --> 01:42:46,860 ever before so keep your eyes open don't 2869 01:42:51,290 --> 01:42:48,840 be sinning and you can submit a report 2870 01:42:53,090 --> 01:42:51,300 with very little information Dave Scott 2871 01:42:55,490 --> 01:42:53,100 and I did one while I was on Space not 2872 01:42:58,669 --> 01:42:55,500 radio the other day we sent in a report 2873 01:43:01,370 --> 01:42:58,679 it's not given the same type of care and 2874 01:43:03,709 --> 01:43:01,380 attention and investigative techniques 2875 01:43:06,050 --> 01:43:03,719 your information goes into a database 2876 01:43:08,510 --> 01:43:06,060 that assigns it and rank and file based 2877 01:43:11,050 --> 01:43:08,520 on how probable it is and which ones we 2878 01:43:13,310 --> 01:43:11,060 should look at or not no magic secret 2879 01:43:14,629 --> 01:43:13,320 and the fact that they want to hide 2880 01:43:16,609 --> 01:43:14,639 behind that 2881 01:43:18,590 --> 01:43:16,619 you want to get people's trust tell them 2882 01:43:20,330 --> 01:43:18,600 who you are we're scientists there's 2883 01:43:22,070 --> 01:43:20,340 eight of us this is why we're doing it 2884 01:43:24,350 --> 01:43:22,080 this is what we're doing with it then it 2885 01:43:25,790 --> 01:43:24,360 will work otherwise it's just like 2886 01:43:27,590 --> 01:43:25,800 somebody's pet project that they're 2887 01:43:30,410 --> 01:43:27,600 trying to get sap money from the 2888 01:43:33,649 --> 01:43:30,420 government for just my two cents 2889 01:43:34,970 --> 01:43:33,659 yeah I would even say with with mufon uh 2890 01:43:37,189 --> 01:43:34,980 you know that you'll have somebody who 2891 01:43:38,629 --> 01:43:37,199 will give you a call and follow up even 2892 01:43:40,070 --> 01:43:38,639 if it's something that took place four 2893 01:43:42,649 --> 01:43:40,080 years ago you're gonna get a phone call 2894 01:43:44,390 --> 01:43:42,659 from somebody and if something is recent 2895 01:43:46,310 --> 01:43:44,400 like you know something landed in your 2896 01:43:48,109 --> 01:43:46,320 backyard that person will drive to your 2897 01:43:50,209 --> 01:43:48,119 location and do an investigation there 2898 01:43:52,010 --> 01:43:50,219 with their equipment so they actually 2899 01:43:54,050 --> 01:43:52,020 care this is somebody who's doing it for 2900 01:43:56,510 --> 01:43:54,060 free like Louie is mentioning don't get 2901 01:43:58,970 --> 01:43:56,520 paid at all for this we're doing it 2902 01:44:00,770 --> 01:43:58,980 because you know it's it's boots on the 2903 01:44:02,570 --> 01:44:00,780 ground and you actually care and with 2904 01:44:04,189 --> 01:44:02,580 mufon you know the nice thing about is 2905 01:44:06,830 --> 01:44:04,199 that you have to pass an exam so it's 2906 01:44:08,330 --> 01:44:06,840 not like everybody can be you know just 2907 01:44:10,310 --> 01:44:08,340 join and become an investigator There's 2908 01:44:12,350 --> 01:44:10,320 an actual exam a book you got to study 2909 01:44:14,810 --> 01:44:12,360 and get a certain passing grade before 2910 01:44:16,910 --> 01:44:14,820 you're able to join the organization and 2911 01:44:18,350 --> 01:44:16,920 start investigating so you know when 2912 01:44:20,090 --> 01:44:18,360 somebody reaches out to you that they 2913 01:44:22,010 --> 01:44:20,100 actually care that they put in the work 2914 01:44:24,410 --> 01:44:22,020 that needs to be put in there for them 2915 01:44:27,050 --> 01:44:24,420 to be able to help you with this program 2916 01:44:29,689 --> 01:44:27,060 by the sounds of it there's no follow-up 2917 01:44:32,390 --> 01:44:29,699 nobody cares and the computer gives you 2918 01:44:33,770 --> 01:44:32,400 a banking on you know whether it's good 2919 01:44:36,350 --> 01:44:33,780 or not like everybody's going to 2920 01:44:38,149 --> 01:44:36,360 embellish their story now because they 2921 01:44:40,129 --> 01:44:38,159 want to have a higher grade right 2922 01:44:42,530 --> 01:44:40,139 where's the BS filter in the software 2923 01:44:43,790 --> 01:44:42,540 where's the human questioning that says 2924 01:44:46,609 --> 01:44:43,800 are you sure you saw that or you think 2925 01:44:49,070 --> 01:44:46,619 you saw that there's no filter this is 2926 01:44:50,870 --> 01:44:49,080 just a database this is not this is not 2927 01:44:52,790 --> 01:44:50,880 what they're pretending it is to be and 2928 01:44:54,709 --> 01:44:52,800 mufon you know the name of the person 2929 01:44:57,229 --> 01:44:54,719 you go on the mufon website in western 2930 01:44:58,850 --> 01:44:57,239 Canada Jason's name is on there as like 2931 01:45:00,890 --> 01:44:58,860 the chief guy for western Canada right 2932 01:45:02,570 --> 01:45:00,900 so they are open about who they are they 2933 01:45:04,550 --> 01:45:02,580 have business cards they give you their 2934 01:45:05,990 --> 01:45:04,560 phone number they're not hiding behind a 2935 01:45:08,030 --> 01:45:06,000 veil saying we're not telling you who we 2936 01:45:10,270 --> 01:45:08,040 are or what we're doing with your data 2937 01:45:14,830 --> 01:45:10,280 that is right that's what you saw 2938 01:45:17,990 --> 01:45:14,840 [Laughter] 2939 01:45:20,149 --> 01:45:18,000 now guys get them you know when I when 2940 01:45:22,550 --> 01:45:20,159 I've I was I gotta be honest with you I 2941 01:45:24,350 --> 01:45:22,560 get excited quickly easily excited about 2942 01:45:26,930 --> 01:45:24,360 a lot of things that I find important so 2943 01:45:28,850 --> 01:45:26,940 and I'm new so when I when I when I find 2944 01:45:30,890 --> 01:45:28,860 out about these new programs or these 2945 01:45:32,570 --> 01:45:30,900 whatever I tend to ask you know know ask 2946 01:45:34,669 --> 01:45:32,580 Louie especially and say hey what do you 2947 01:45:36,290 --> 01:45:34,679 think man because I don't know and I 2948 01:45:38,209 --> 01:45:36,300 don't have enough experience to really 2949 01:45:40,669 --> 01:45:38,219 be able to determine what these things 2950 01:45:42,350 --> 01:45:40,679 are and or what you know these efforts 2951 01:45:43,669 --> 01:45:42,360 especially with these people are and I 2952 01:45:45,229 --> 01:45:43,679 didn't have the perspective you guys are 2953 01:45:47,270 --> 01:45:45,239 just you just provided I just thought oh 2954 01:45:49,430 --> 01:45:47,280 it's very ambitious it sounds great it's 2955 01:45:50,930 --> 01:45:49,440 nice and then whenever you know I talk 2956 01:45:52,729 --> 01:45:50,940 to you Louie we talked about it I looked 2957 01:45:53,930 --> 01:45:52,739 again and then I started seeing the 2958 01:45:56,810 --> 01:45:53,940 things that you were talking about and I 2959 01:45:58,850 --> 01:45:56,820 was like Ugh I don't know it's just not 2960 01:46:01,669 --> 01:45:58,860 the language the sentence structure is 2961 01:46:04,430 --> 01:46:01,679 weird they start sentences with words 2962 01:46:05,570 --> 01:46:04,440 like because and it made your nose you 2963 01:46:07,430 --> 01:46:05,580 don't start a sentence with the word 2964 01:46:10,790 --> 01:46:07,440 because you know like leave it like that 2965 01:46:12,050 --> 01:46:10,800 I I kind of I was I was forgiving when I 2966 01:46:14,149 --> 01:46:12,060 first saw that when I first I was like 2967 01:46:15,890 --> 01:46:14,159 man they're terrible they're grandma and 2968 01:46:18,050 --> 01:46:15,900 I'm my grammar is not perfect but like 2969 01:46:19,310 --> 01:46:18,060 their grammar was you're you're running 2970 01:46:21,649 --> 01:46:19,320 an official site that you're saying 2971 01:46:22,790 --> 01:46:21,659 you're working with a DOD exactly and 2972 01:46:25,370 --> 01:46:22,800 this is your this is how you're gonna 2973 01:46:27,050 --> 01:46:25,380 deliver your message I did have some 2974 01:46:28,850 --> 01:46:27,060 hesitation there but I kind of again I 2975 01:46:31,310 --> 01:46:28,860 wanted to give some leniency 2976 01:46:32,930 --> 01:46:31,320 um they have a big backlog of of past 2977 01:46:36,250 --> 01:46:32,940 incidents of historical incidents that 2978 01:46:38,810 --> 01:46:36,260 are really it's really good but yes 2979 01:46:40,970 --> 01:46:38,820 after I listened to what you said when 2980 01:46:42,590 --> 01:46:40,980 we had a conversation privately I looked 2981 01:46:44,149 --> 01:46:42,600 at it again I did some more research I 2982 01:46:46,729 --> 01:46:44,159 did some more digging and there's a lot 2983 01:46:48,229 --> 01:46:46,739 to that organization or that effort that 2984 01:46:49,970 --> 01:46:48,239 I just don't agree with I'm not I I 2985 01:46:50,750 --> 01:46:49,980 think they have a lot to prove if 2986 01:46:51,649 --> 01:46:50,760 they're going to do what they say 2987 01:46:53,030 --> 01:46:51,659 they're going to do they have a lot to 2988 01:46:54,290 --> 01:46:53,040 prove and they're saying they already 2989 01:46:55,850 --> 01:46:54,300 have a bunch of data well there's 2990 01:46:58,129 --> 01:46:55,860 already data publicly available we 2991 01:47:00,350 --> 01:46:58,139 talked to Cheryl Costa she's got a a 2992 01:47:02,450 --> 01:47:00,360 friggin huge volume for every single 2993 01:47:04,550 --> 01:47:02,460 state in the U.S of all the number of 2994 01:47:07,790 --> 01:47:04,560 sightings where they were per capita 2995 01:47:09,290 --> 01:47:07,800 it's like a census on UFO sightings and 2996 01:47:11,450 --> 01:47:09,300 so you start pumping that stuff into 2997 01:47:14,149 --> 01:47:11,460 software then you have you know 2998 01:47:14,890 --> 01:47:14,159 government archives that talk about you 2999 01:47:17,930 --> 01:47:14,900 know 3000 01:47:18,950 --> 01:47:17,940 UFO encounters and weird things like you 3001 01:47:20,330 --> 01:47:18,960 did you were talking about that the 3002 01:47:22,490 --> 01:47:20,340 other day Marquis there's stuff that's 3003 01:47:24,229 --> 01:47:22,500 not classified you can go and find if 3004 01:47:25,790 --> 01:47:24,239 you know where to dig yeah so they're 3005 01:47:28,490 --> 01:47:25,800 just filling a database with the stuff 3006 01:47:30,770 --> 01:47:28,500 that's already available and they need 3007 01:47:33,709 --> 01:47:30,780 but they need the real cases from the 3008 01:47:35,570 --> 01:47:33,719 population that's the new stuff and 3009 01:47:37,310 --> 01:47:35,580 again I would be very careful now more 3010 01:47:39,709 --> 01:47:37,320 than ever with your info 3011 01:47:42,350 --> 01:47:39,719 just just be careful again government 3012 01:47:44,629 --> 01:47:42,360 programs they're not they don't have a 3013 01:47:47,149 --> 01:47:44,639 crappy website with poor grammar neither 3014 01:47:49,370 --> 01:47:47,159 does military no use it as intelligence 3015 01:47:51,109 --> 01:47:49,380 there's no typos although they do tend 3016 01:47:53,090 --> 01:47:51,119 to put up they do tend to put up some 3017 01:47:56,689 --> 01:47:53,100 very suggestive logos sometimes by 3018 01:47:58,129 --> 01:47:56,699 accident yeah yeah you know what I'm 3019 01:48:00,050 --> 01:47:58,139 talking about the uh the picture of the 3020 01:48:01,729 --> 01:48:00,060 UFO along with the Jet and all that 3021 01:48:03,649 --> 01:48:01,739 stuff like that for the new Aero office 3022 01:48:05,750 --> 01:48:03,659 yeah that was oh it was an accident 3023 01:48:06,890 --> 01:48:05,760 somebody did it by you know it was messy 3024 01:48:08,209 --> 01:48:06,900 you never know it could have been the 3025 01:48:10,310 --> 01:48:08,219 I.T guy just saying you know what 3026 01:48:11,629 --> 01:48:10,320 today's my last day I'm putting this on 3027 01:48:13,189 --> 01:48:11,639 our Twitter page and they should have 3028 01:48:14,270 --> 01:48:13,199 told it it could have been it could have 3029 01:48:15,890 --> 01:48:14,280 been they're not going to kill them for 3030 01:48:17,330 --> 01:48:15,900 something like that no I could see 3031 01:48:18,470 --> 01:48:17,340 somebody getting a kick out of that you 3032 01:48:20,270 --> 01:48:18,480 know that's that'd be something Bob 3033 01:48:22,729 --> 01:48:20,280 Lazar would do 3034 01:48:24,169 --> 01:48:22,739 yeah that's true he would definitely do 3035 01:48:25,609 --> 01:48:24,179 that it would cost some coin too because 3036 01:48:27,290 --> 01:48:25,619 you got him you know was it all 3037 01:48:30,290 --> 01:48:27,300 embroidered and everything inside the 3038 01:48:34,270 --> 01:48:30,300 garage 200 000 uniforms it's too late 3039 01:48:39,109 --> 01:48:37,070 so I was gonna say with just as the 3040 01:48:40,850 --> 01:48:39,119 Insignia it reminded me of uh space 3041 01:48:42,890 --> 01:48:40,860 force you know they're actually putting 3042 01:48:44,450 --> 01:48:42,900 together like and I always say like do 3043 01:48:46,129 --> 01:48:44,460 they come up with the crew first and 3044 01:48:47,750 --> 01:48:46,139 then come out with the ships or the 3045 01:48:49,430 --> 01:48:47,760 ships already build and then they need 3046 01:48:51,890 --> 01:48:49,440 to fill it with the crew like how does 3047 01:48:55,250 --> 01:48:51,900 that work right like just oh we're you 3048 01:48:57,950 --> 01:48:55,260 know we're uh what was it um 3049 01:49:00,709 --> 01:48:57,960 for all threats basically in space right 3050 01:49:03,470 --> 01:49:00,719 foreign domestic and unknown and 3051 01:49:04,850 --> 01:49:03,480 basically that's their job and again you 3052 01:49:08,149 --> 01:49:04,860 know you're mentioning house grow up we 3053 01:49:10,010 --> 01:49:08,159 are as a species every weapon we have in 3054 01:49:11,689 --> 01:49:10,020 space all the nukes everything that we 3055 01:49:13,609 --> 01:49:11,699 don't know about they're all pointed 3056 01:49:16,370 --> 01:49:13,619 back at us it's like pointing guns at 3057 01:49:18,410 --> 01:49:16,380 your own head right and instead of like 3058 01:49:20,810 --> 01:49:18,420 pointing it out in space towards what 3059 01:49:22,250 --> 01:49:20,820 could possibly come at us we pointed at 3060 01:49:25,070 --> 01:49:22,260 ourselves because we are the biggest 3061 01:49:26,750 --> 01:49:25,080 threat to ourselves we are yeah and then 3062 01:49:29,390 --> 01:49:26,760 here we are like why are they interested 3063 01:49:32,570 --> 01:49:29,400 in us well we're fascinating like we're 3064 01:49:34,729 --> 01:49:32,580 self-destructive that's crazy yeah we're 3065 01:49:36,229 --> 01:49:34,739 quite the species man yeah I saw a meme 3066 01:49:39,530 --> 01:49:36,239 of like where there was like these 3067 01:49:41,510 --> 01:49:39,540 aliens that were it's it's season 2023 3068 01:49:44,629 --> 01:49:41,520 of Earth and they were eating popcorn 3069 01:49:47,570 --> 01:49:44,639 like you know the greatest reality show 3070 01:49:49,850 --> 01:49:47,580 in the universe oh yeah we are we are 3071 01:49:51,830 --> 01:49:49,860 something else and you know when we look 3072 01:49:53,570 --> 01:49:51,840 at this is a philosophical idea when it 3073 01:49:55,850 --> 01:49:53,580 comes to how we see ourselves versus how 3074 01:49:57,050 --> 01:49:55,860 other beings might see us and we look at 3075 01:49:59,930 --> 01:49:57,060 ourselves we think of ourselves as the 3076 01:50:02,209 --> 01:49:59,940 Apex we are the apex predator of the of 3077 01:50:04,189 --> 01:50:02,219 the universe so to speak like you said 3078 01:50:06,709 --> 01:50:04,199 earlier Jason about movies like you see 3079 01:50:08,450 --> 01:50:06,719 movies and we win well how the heck are 3080 01:50:10,070 --> 01:50:08,460 you gonna win again I can't imagine 3081 01:50:12,350 --> 01:50:10,080 every time I see those movies I'm like 3082 01:50:13,669 --> 01:50:12,360 we're just like we're just lying our way 3083 01:50:14,870 --> 01:50:13,679 through this this plot because there's 3084 01:50:17,149 --> 01:50:14,880 no freaking way we would win against 3085 01:50:18,709 --> 01:50:17,159 these aliens or a zombie flick which I 3086 01:50:20,870 --> 01:50:18,719 love I think there's no way we would 3087 01:50:22,609 --> 01:50:20,880 survive survive a zombie apoc it's just 3088 01:50:23,870 --> 01:50:22,619 not gonna happen we're all gonna die if 3089 01:50:26,030 --> 01:50:23,880 there's a zombie apocalypse we're done 3090 01:50:27,590 --> 01:50:26,040 guys there's no surviving it 3091 01:50:30,290 --> 01:50:27,600 um of any kind especially if they're the 3092 01:50:33,050 --> 01:50:30,300 fast zombies so like you know we we 3093 01:50:35,689 --> 01:50:33,060 think of ourselves as the apex predator 3094 01:50:37,129 --> 01:50:35,699 but now we realize that there's a bigger 3095 01:50:38,390 --> 01:50:37,139 fish out there I mean at least we're 3096 01:50:40,010 --> 01:50:38,400 starting to realize and admit that 3097 01:50:42,590 --> 01:50:40,020 there's a bigger fish out there and it 3098 01:50:45,050 --> 01:50:42,600 makes me wonder how we should how we 3099 01:50:47,450 --> 01:50:45,060 should feel about ourselves as a 3100 01:50:50,450 --> 01:50:47,460 civilization what do you think the best 3101 01:50:52,669 --> 01:50:50,460 way we should see ourselves as as a 3102 01:50:56,570 --> 01:50:52,679 civilization would be when when thinking 3103 01:50:59,689 --> 01:50:58,310 that's a big field I know it's a big 3104 01:51:01,010 --> 01:50:59,699 philosophical implica you know question 3105 01:51:02,390 --> 01:51:01,020 because I've been asking myself let me 3106 01:51:03,890 --> 01:51:02,400 let me let me tell you what I what I've 3107 01:51:06,169 --> 01:51:03,900 been I've been thinking about this 3108 01:51:09,530 --> 01:51:06,179 because you know 3109 01:51:12,169 --> 01:51:09,540 there's war I said once that we kill 3110 01:51:15,530 --> 01:51:12,179 each other over dirt and that's I mean 3111 01:51:17,510 --> 01:51:15,540 literally literally over dirt but we 3112 01:51:19,310 --> 01:51:17,520 have a necessity as an individual human 3113 01:51:21,890 --> 01:51:19,320 being across the world no matter where 3114 01:51:23,930 --> 01:51:21,900 you are in the world you need to you 3115 01:51:26,030 --> 01:51:23,940 need to survive you need to eat you need 3116 01:51:27,530 --> 01:51:26,040 to drink water you have to there's some 3117 01:51:29,930 --> 01:51:27,540 there's certain things that you need as 3118 01:51:31,550 --> 01:51:29,940 a biological organism to survive and 3119 01:51:33,350 --> 01:51:31,560 then on top of survival there's the 3120 01:51:35,990 --> 01:51:33,360 feeling of the feeling of happiness or 3121 01:51:37,790 --> 01:51:36,000 fulfillment we all seek pleasure and 3122 01:51:40,430 --> 01:51:37,800 avoid pain our brain is designed to seek 3123 01:51:42,350 --> 01:51:40,440 pleasure and avoid pain and yet somehow 3124 01:51:45,530 --> 01:51:42,360 we contradict our natural biological 3125 01:51:48,410 --> 01:51:45,540 imperative as a civilization which to me 3126 01:51:50,570 --> 01:51:48,420 is bizarre and it kind of again I think 3127 01:51:53,030 --> 01:51:50,580 about the fact that we're we're going 3128 01:51:55,790 --> 01:51:53,040 against the grain so to speak 3129 01:51:59,570 --> 01:51:55,800 of what our actual nature seems to be 3130 01:52:01,550 --> 01:51:59,580 which is to thrive to seek to thrive to 3131 01:52:04,010 --> 01:52:01,560 improve to seek to improve to love to 3132 01:52:06,290 --> 01:52:04,020 connect to and to of course suggest to 3133 01:52:08,450 --> 01:52:06,300 survive as in the the biological needs 3134 01:52:10,609 --> 01:52:08,460 to eating and the drinking of water we 3135 01:52:12,890 --> 01:52:10,619 have those imperatives that we're 3136 01:52:15,229 --> 01:52:12,900 completely going against 3137 01:52:16,790 --> 01:52:15,239 um and have designed a society to go 3138 01:52:18,830 --> 01:52:16,800 against 3139 01:52:20,689 --> 01:52:18,840 um and and I feel like it's just it's 3140 01:52:23,209 --> 01:52:20,699 very primitive and we're almost like the 3141 01:52:25,609 --> 01:52:23,219 dumbest race in on our planet and 3142 01:52:27,590 --> 01:52:25,619 clearly in the entire universe 3143 01:52:30,530 --> 01:52:27,600 that's not to give a little context to 3144 01:52:33,709 --> 01:52:30,540 that when you say you know we are doing 3145 01:52:35,390 --> 01:52:33,719 these things it's a very few people who 3146 01:52:37,669 --> 01:52:35,400 have sort of set up these rules set up 3147 01:52:39,830 --> 01:52:37,679 the game this is how the economy works 3148 01:52:42,050 --> 01:52:39,840 you go to work you buy a house you do 3149 01:52:44,390 --> 01:52:42,060 all this stuff they made the rules of 3150 01:52:46,729 --> 01:52:44,400 the game we're stuck playing in it and 3151 01:52:49,010 --> 01:52:46,739 the people making the decisions yeah 3152 01:52:50,750 --> 01:52:49,020 they don't have the best interest of 3153 01:52:52,010 --> 01:52:50,760 those people below them at heart because 3154 01:52:54,410 --> 01:52:52,020 they don't they don't live in the same 3155 01:52:56,570 --> 01:52:54,420 world as the average person these are 3156 01:52:58,850 --> 01:52:56,580 people that you know are worth hundreds 3157 01:53:01,129 --> 01:52:58,860 of millions or billions of dollars you 3158 01:53:02,330 --> 01:53:01,139 can't possibly understand a Layman or 3159 01:53:04,970 --> 01:53:02,340 think you do I don't care how much 3160 01:53:07,129 --> 01:53:04,980 philanthropy you do take away the tax 3161 01:53:11,270 --> 01:53:07,139 incentives and see how much money these 3162 01:53:13,970 --> 01:53:11,280 billionaires donate okay so yeah we as a 3163 01:53:16,550 --> 01:53:13,980 globe have not made good decisions but 3164 01:53:18,590 --> 01:53:16,560 we have allowed a very few people to 3165 01:53:21,709 --> 01:53:18,600 make poor decisions and now we're all 3166 01:53:24,290 --> 01:53:21,719 stuck dealing with it so that's kind of 3167 01:53:26,149 --> 01:53:24,300 my take on things as far as you know be 3168 01:53:27,830 --> 01:53:26,159 humble how do we look at at this 3169 01:53:29,270 --> 01:53:27,840 phenomenon was your question what do we 3170 01:53:31,189 --> 01:53:29,280 think about not being the bigger fish 3171 01:53:34,070 --> 01:53:31,199 think that you're not the bigger fish 3172 01:53:36,290 --> 01:53:34,080 realize that accept that be okay with 3173 01:53:37,729 --> 01:53:36,300 that you know I still believe we were 3174 01:53:39,410 --> 01:53:37,739 born with everything we need to make it 3175 01:53:42,470 --> 01:53:39,420 through this journey we just get 3176 01:53:44,510 --> 01:53:42,480 complicated and we get brainwashed and 3177 01:53:46,609 --> 01:53:44,520 you know this civilizations couple 3178 01:53:49,250 --> 01:53:46,619 hundred thousand years old now these 3179 01:53:50,870 --> 01:53:49,260 rules go way back and whoever set it up 3180 01:53:52,750 --> 01:53:50,880 this way clearly didn't have the 3181 01:53:56,030 --> 01:53:52,760 foresight to see what it would become 3182 01:53:58,250 --> 01:53:56,040 overpopulation pollution greed there are 3183 01:54:00,109 --> 01:53:58,260 some cultures and religions that have 3184 01:54:02,629 --> 01:54:00,119 not bought into that and they still have 3185 01:54:04,010 --> 01:54:02,639 their purity so to speak but generally 3186 01:54:06,229 --> 01:54:04,020 speaking unless you're going to 3187 01:54:09,050 --> 01:54:06,239 disconnect from the grid and go eat 3188 01:54:11,149 --> 01:54:09,060 grubs and drink puddle water you've got 3189 01:54:13,910 --> 01:54:11,159 to work in this stupid system that 3190 01:54:16,310 --> 01:54:13,920 somebody's set up it's just how it is so 3191 01:54:18,709 --> 01:54:16,320 just be humble acknowledge that humility 3192 01:54:20,930 --> 01:54:18,719 we didn't all choose this it was our 3193 01:54:23,209 --> 01:54:20,940 ancestors some of it and it's the people 3194 01:54:24,770 --> 01:54:23,219 we had in politics people we currently 3195 01:54:27,649 --> 01:54:24,780 have in politics and the ones we will 3196 01:54:29,450 --> 01:54:27,659 have in the future sure as well so the 3197 01:54:31,370 --> 01:54:29,460 system doesn't break unless we break it 3198 01:54:32,330 --> 01:54:31,380 and until we realize that if very few 3199 01:54:35,030 --> 01:54:32,340 people 3200 01:54:37,370 --> 01:54:35,040 are making decisions of what suits them 3201 01:54:39,290 --> 01:54:37,380 best and all of us are stuck having to 3202 01:54:41,330 --> 01:54:39,300 deal with the ramifications that's the 3203 01:54:43,370 --> 01:54:41,340 biggest issue 3204 01:54:46,370 --> 01:54:43,380 yeah I think you know you think about 3205 01:54:48,590 --> 01:54:46,380 how far back you know our 3206 01:54:50,270 --> 01:54:48,600 struggles have been when you know the 3207 01:54:52,310 --> 01:54:50,280 struggles back in the day was you know 3208 01:54:56,209 --> 01:54:52,320 for you and and the tribe that you were 3209 01:54:58,129 --> 01:54:56,219 in to go get food you know to go and get 3210 01:55:00,590 --> 01:54:58,139 water and that everybody was you know 3211 01:55:02,390 --> 01:55:00,600 fine and you know infant mortality rates 3212 01:55:04,070 --> 01:55:02,400 were through the roof right you know 3213 01:55:08,330 --> 01:55:04,080 what I mean like it lived to be like 35 3214 01:55:11,149 --> 01:55:08,340 years old like yeah not even not even 3215 01:55:12,470 --> 01:55:11,159 like 22 was probably the average of what 3216 01:55:15,250 --> 01:55:12,480 people actually well you got married at 3217 01:55:17,510 --> 01:55:15,260 14 because they're gonna die in 10 years 3218 01:55:19,070 --> 01:55:17,520 till death do us part you know they 3219 01:55:20,930 --> 01:55:19,080 meant it back then because it's like it 3220 01:55:22,270 --> 01:55:20,940 could be a couple of months until that 3221 01:55:24,950 --> 01:55:22,280 happens 3222 01:55:26,270 --> 01:55:24,960 I didn't know it was a couple hundred 3223 01:55:28,070 --> 01:55:26,280 years ago we didn't even know if we'd be 3224 01:55:30,830 --> 01:55:28,080 together 50 years we thought we would be 3225 01:55:33,129 --> 01:55:30,840 dead by now so yeah it'd be a 10-year 3226 01:55:35,450 --> 01:55:33,139 contract 3227 01:55:37,070 --> 01:55:35,460 absolutely but you know what like even 3228 01:55:39,649 --> 01:55:37,080 thinking about our nature it's the same 3229 01:55:41,510 --> 01:55:39,659 thing as uh ants you know ants do their 3230 01:55:42,950 --> 01:55:41,520 jobs every day they go out they don't 3231 01:55:44,270 --> 01:55:42,960 question anything they just do what 3232 01:55:46,850 --> 01:55:44,280 they're supposed to do to feed the 3233 01:55:49,129 --> 01:55:46,860 machine to keep things alive we do the 3234 01:55:52,129 --> 01:55:49,139 same thing we have patterns that we do 3235 01:55:53,990 --> 01:55:52,139 like we we're not good at uh we like 3236 01:55:56,990 --> 01:55:54,000 repetition we like things that are 3237 01:55:58,550 --> 01:55:57,000 familiar to us and so we do that 3238 01:56:00,290 --> 01:55:58,560 now we're at a point where we don't have 3239 01:56:01,550 --> 01:56:00,300 to worry about the food we don't have to 3240 01:56:03,229 --> 01:56:01,560 worry about the water right that's 3241 01:56:05,330 --> 01:56:03,239 already taken care of we got a lot more 3242 01:56:08,090 --> 01:56:05,340 time on our hands to ponder things like 3243 01:56:09,530 --> 01:56:08,100 uaps and actually pay attention and to 3244 01:56:11,629 --> 01:56:09,540 the point where people are running out 3245 01:56:13,129 --> 01:56:11,639 of things to do that they're dying their 3246 01:56:14,870 --> 01:56:13,139 hair a certain color and then going on 3247 01:56:17,990 --> 01:56:14,880 the internet saying they identify as a 3248 01:56:19,669 --> 01:56:18,000 snail crazy and that's just yeah right 3249 01:56:21,290 --> 01:56:19,679 you might want to edit that out if you 3250 01:56:22,390 --> 01:56:21,300 want to no offense to any of the snail 3251 01:56:25,609 --> 01:56:22,400 people 3252 01:56:28,490 --> 01:56:25,619 we don't mean to offend you Jason does 3253 01:56:31,250 --> 01:56:28,500 not speak on behalf studies when it 3254 01:56:32,689 --> 01:56:31,260 comes to snail affiliation I just want 3255 01:56:35,390 --> 01:56:32,699 to be very clear about disclaimer 3256 01:56:38,390 --> 01:56:35,400 audience we're gonna get so much snail 3257 01:56:41,450 --> 01:56:38,400 mail it's gonna be crazy yeah 3258 01:56:44,330 --> 01:56:41,460 um world people too we're real sorry no 3259 01:56:46,129 --> 01:56:44,340 harm yeah but you know we're at the 3260 01:56:48,470 --> 01:56:46,139 point where we have all this time on our 3261 01:56:50,270 --> 01:56:48,480 hands we have the capabilities of of 3262 01:56:53,090 --> 01:56:50,280 pondering the bigger questions and 3263 01:56:55,970 --> 01:56:53,100 chasing things the problem is is that 3264 01:56:58,010 --> 01:56:55,980 we have a tendency to remain regressive 3265 01:57:00,109 --> 01:56:58,020 you know we're making so much progress 3266 01:57:02,450 --> 01:57:00,119 we made so much progress and like within 3267 01:57:04,729 --> 01:57:02,460 the last five years it's like what the 3268 01:57:06,530 --> 01:57:04,739 hell happened like I know covet happened 3269 01:57:08,450 --> 01:57:06,540 but like the whole society's falling 3270 01:57:11,450 --> 01:57:08,460 apart now all of a sudden it's yeah it's 3271 01:57:13,189 --> 01:57:11,460 just it's Jinx and people are don't know 3272 01:57:15,050 --> 01:57:13,199 where to throw themselves anymore and 3273 01:57:17,450 --> 01:57:15,060 here they are laughing that you know the 3274 01:57:19,669 --> 01:57:17,460 possibilities that we might be visited 3275 01:57:22,010 --> 01:57:19,679 by entities of some other location and 3276 01:57:24,530 --> 01:57:22,020 we don't know where but they'll laugh at 3277 01:57:26,750 --> 01:57:24,540 that like ha ha that's ridiculous yeah 3278 01:57:28,910 --> 01:57:26,760 snail snails like it's just it's crazy 3279 01:57:32,089 --> 01:57:28,920 you know what I mean like it's dumb and 3280 01:57:34,430 --> 01:57:32,099 it is I think to your point like what 3281 01:57:37,010 --> 01:57:34,440 bothers me is that people human beings 3282 01:57:39,589 --> 01:57:37,020 tend to generally tend to focus on 3283 01:57:41,990 --> 01:57:39,599 things that are that are irrelevant I 3284 01:57:44,209 --> 01:57:42,000 mean it's to our survival and also to 3285 01:57:46,990 --> 01:57:44,219 our to our sense of fulfillment 3286 01:57:50,209 --> 01:57:47,000 and we've created this social you know 3287 01:57:51,950 --> 01:57:50,219 this very strong social construct to our 3288 01:57:54,410 --> 01:57:51,960 society that we focus more on the social 3289 01:57:56,570 --> 01:57:54,420 aspect of it and we've created these 3290 01:58:00,530 --> 01:57:56,580 this new way of 3291 01:58:02,330 --> 01:58:00,540 viewing ourselves in the world that is 3292 01:58:03,770 --> 01:58:02,340 not attached necessarily attached to 3293 01:58:06,770 --> 01:58:03,780 reality and every and I mean everybody 3294 01:58:09,109 --> 01:58:06,780 does it in all aspects of vote on all 3295 01:58:10,790 --> 01:58:09,119 sides and all aspects of anything the 3296 01:58:12,830 --> 01:58:10,800 spectrum is cluttered with people who 3297 01:58:15,589 --> 01:58:12,840 are just not matching with objective 3298 01:58:17,390 --> 01:58:15,599 reality yeah and 3299 01:58:18,950 --> 01:58:17,400 I always thought to myself you know when 3300 01:58:20,390 --> 01:58:18,960 I first started this podcast I was going 3301 01:58:22,669 --> 01:58:20,400 to do it from the perspective of 3302 01:58:24,530 --> 01:58:22,679 somebody who's wondering why we're not 3303 01:58:26,570 --> 01:58:24,540 we're not looking at the kardashev 3304 01:58:28,250 --> 01:58:26,580 method or the cartership scale and while 3305 01:58:30,649 --> 01:58:28,260 we're not trying to push towards as a 3306 01:58:32,209 --> 01:58:30,659 civilization that being a type one 3307 01:58:34,310 --> 01:58:32,219 civilization we're a type zero 3308 01:58:36,589 --> 01:58:34,320 civilization not even I mean if there 3309 01:58:39,470 --> 01:58:36,599 was a type negative zero negative one we 3310 01:58:41,209 --> 01:58:39,480 would be it and and so why are we 3311 01:58:43,250 --> 01:58:41,219 focusing on on things that are 3312 01:58:45,109 --> 01:58:43,260 irrelevant to the to the survival of all 3313 01:58:47,330 --> 01:58:45,119 of us why are we focusing on things that 3314 01:58:48,950 --> 01:58:47,340 are relevant to I mean we're focusing on 3315 01:58:51,830 --> 01:58:48,960 things that lead to our eminent 3316 01:58:53,510 --> 01:58:51,840 destruction ourselves 3317 01:58:55,490 --> 01:58:53,520 um and I I that was the original purpose 3318 01:58:59,030 --> 01:58:55,500 of the podcast but it evolved into this 3319 01:59:02,089 --> 01:58:59,040 and now I wonder like what is the thing 3320 01:59:04,970 --> 01:59:02,099 that would bring us all together and 3321 01:59:06,530 --> 01:59:04,980 usually it's catastrophe catastrophe 3322 01:59:09,770 --> 01:59:06,540 tends to bring people together more so 3323 01:59:11,390 --> 01:59:09,780 than anything else and unfortunately my 3324 01:59:13,070 --> 01:59:11,400 from what I see and from what I 3325 01:59:14,930 --> 01:59:13,080 understand about the world my world view 3326 01:59:17,390 --> 01:59:14,940 is that until there is a great 3327 01:59:19,310 --> 01:59:17,400 catastrophe we will never be unified and 3328 01:59:21,470 --> 01:59:19,320 I mean one that shakes the entire world 3329 01:59:24,050 --> 01:59:21,480 one that affects every single human 3330 01:59:25,850 --> 01:59:24,060 being across the globe unless there is a 3331 01:59:27,350 --> 01:59:25,860 catastrophe of some kind people just 3332 01:59:29,270 --> 01:59:27,360 won't come together it's almost like 3333 01:59:31,910 --> 01:59:29,280 catastrophe serves a purpose in our 3334 01:59:34,550 --> 01:59:31,920 development and I worry that before 3335 01:59:36,410 --> 01:59:34,560 there before there is disclosure we will 3336 01:59:38,689 --> 01:59:36,420 probably destroy ourselves 3337 01:59:41,270 --> 01:59:38,699 that's my concern 3338 01:59:43,790 --> 01:59:41,280 absolutely very very uh Ronald Reagan 3339 01:59:46,310 --> 01:59:43,800 asked you know if we only knew or if 3340 01:59:48,589 --> 01:59:46,320 there was an outside force how quickly 3341 01:59:50,689 --> 01:59:48,599 would we all unite to defend ourselves 3342 01:59:52,070 --> 01:59:50,699 against that force and I hope that 3343 01:59:52,910 --> 01:59:52,080 that's not the government I mean I don't 3344 01:59:54,530 --> 01:59:52,920 think the government has our best 3345 01:59:56,030 --> 01:59:54,540 interest in mind no matter what so I 3346 01:59:58,010 --> 01:59:56,040 don't think I don't believe that the 3347 02:00:01,129 --> 01:59:58,020 government that could be wrong and there 3348 02:00:02,330 --> 02:00:01,139 is there is a reason to to consider the 3349 02:00:04,490 --> 02:00:02,340 possibility that the government is 3350 02:00:06,709 --> 02:00:04,500 creating a threat narrative for the sake 3351 02:00:08,450 --> 02:00:06,719 of unifying the world against a 3352 02:00:09,709 --> 02:00:08,460 Potential Threat that actually doesn't 3353 02:00:10,910 --> 02:00:09,719 exist 3354 02:00:13,370 --> 02:00:10,920 um creating a threat out of these beings 3355 02:00:15,109 --> 02:00:13,380 but if that's the case they're once 3356 02:00:16,910 --> 02:00:15,119 again leading to our destruction because 3357 02:00:20,870 --> 02:00:16,920 because we can't even shoot these things 3358 02:00:23,450 --> 02:00:20,880 down so why start a war with them that's 3359 02:00:26,229 --> 02:00:23,460 stupid and which country gets which 3360 02:00:28,550 --> 02:00:26,239 country gets to authorize that you know 3361 02:00:30,290 --> 02:00:28,560 start shooting them down like they're 3362 02:00:32,689 --> 02:00:30,300 speaking on behalf of the whole world at 3363 02:00:34,129 --> 02:00:32,699 that point so you know I mean like these 3364 02:00:35,990 --> 02:00:34,139 entities probably don't understand what 3365 02:00:38,209 --> 02:00:36,000 a country is they just look at you know 3366 02:00:39,709 --> 02:00:38,219 they'll go wherever they want to you 3367 02:00:41,390 --> 02:00:39,719 know but if you can got planes starting 3368 02:00:42,709 --> 02:00:41,400 to shoot them down they'll think all the 3369 02:00:44,629 --> 02:00:42,719 planes are trying to shoot them down 3370 02:00:47,149 --> 02:00:44,639 like you know this is who makes that 3371 02:00:48,830 --> 02:00:47,159 call and it can't be the United States 3372 02:00:50,810 --> 02:00:48,840 they don't speak on behalf of the whole 3373 02:00:52,910 --> 02:00:50,820 world they have their own issues with 3374 02:00:55,250 --> 02:00:52,920 the uaps I understand that but you know 3375 02:00:58,070 --> 02:00:55,260 it's as if Canada started firing with 3376 02:01:00,169 --> 02:00:58,080 you know our Jets not that we have many 3377 02:01:02,089 --> 02:01:00,179 um at these things uh it would be 3378 02:01:03,470 --> 02:01:02,099 repercussions right if we constantly try 3379 02:01:05,689 --> 02:01:03,480 to chase these things down and shoot 3380 02:01:07,970 --> 02:01:05,699 them obviously if they go to the States 3381 02:01:10,790 --> 02:01:07,980 they're going to be you know very wary 3382 02:01:13,129 --> 02:01:10,800 of your of your own Jets right so 3383 02:01:14,689 --> 02:01:13,139 yeah I think this is an issue that you 3384 02:01:16,550 --> 02:01:14,699 know as a society we have to deal like 3385 02:01:18,709 --> 02:01:16,560 how are we going to deal with this 3386 02:01:20,689 --> 02:01:18,719 phenomenon globally 3387 02:01:23,030 --> 02:01:20,699 because every country right now is in it 3388 02:01:24,770 --> 02:01:23,040 for themselves right either trying to 3389 02:01:27,290 --> 02:01:24,780 solve the puzzle the Messiah complex 3390 02:01:29,750 --> 02:01:27,300 like I will be the one that that solves 3391 02:01:31,370 --> 02:01:29,760 this or proves it achieve technological 3392 02:01:33,709 --> 02:01:31,380 dominance through the table exactly 3393 02:01:36,229 --> 02:01:33,719 exactly and that's that's the scary bit 3394 02:01:38,030 --> 02:01:36,239 right because they basically it affects 3395 02:01:40,070 --> 02:01:38,040 everybody on this planet Whoever has 3396 02:01:41,390 --> 02:01:40,080 this technology will dominate over 3397 02:01:43,729 --> 02:01:41,400 everyone 3398 02:01:46,850 --> 02:01:43,739 someone speculated that there was a 3399 02:01:48,229 --> 02:01:46,860 gravitational bomb now I'm not gonna 3400 02:01:49,910 --> 02:01:48,239 even try to understand the science 3401 02:01:51,830 --> 02:01:49,920 behind what that even means but that if 3402 02:01:54,410 --> 02:01:51,840 there was a gravity bomb forget about 3403 02:01:55,970 --> 02:01:54,420 nuclear it would it would be Beyond 3404 02:01:58,430 --> 02:01:55,980 catastrophic you would eat your Galaxy 3405 02:01:59,930 --> 02:01:58,440 he'd create a wormhole exactly black 3406 02:02:01,490 --> 02:01:59,940 people to destroy the entire solar 3407 02:02:04,490 --> 02:02:01,500 system or more as you were saying so 3408 02:02:06,169 --> 02:02:04,500 like so yeah the again the reason why 3409 02:02:07,370 --> 02:02:06,179 the government doesn't tell us all I can 3410 02:02:08,689 --> 02:02:07,380 understand again I can understand why 3411 02:02:09,950 --> 02:02:08,699 but I think there needs to be at least 3412 02:02:11,810 --> 02:02:09,960 an admission that there's something else 3413 02:02:12,890 --> 02:02:11,820 that's not human I think that telling us 3414 02:02:14,689 --> 02:02:12,900 that there's Anonymous intelligence 3415 02:02:15,709 --> 02:02:14,699 doesn't say hey by the way you can steal 3416 02:02:17,030 --> 02:02:15,719 their technology and this is what you 3417 02:02:18,470 --> 02:02:17,040 can do with it you can keep that stuff a 3418 02:02:19,550 --> 02:02:18,480 secret we need to know what's out there 3419 02:02:20,629 --> 02:02:19,560 we need to know that there is something 3420 02:02:22,729 --> 02:02:20,639 out there and I think they're slowly 3421 02:02:23,870 --> 02:02:22,739 telling us that there's something out 3422 02:02:25,010 --> 02:02:23,880 there 3423 02:02:27,530 --> 02:02:25,020 um telling you if you're paying 3424 02:02:29,450 --> 02:02:27,540 attention if you're paying the lines and 3425 02:02:30,649 --> 02:02:29,460 again how did they just come out and say 3426 02:02:32,450 --> 02:02:30,659 that we've been lying to you for 70 3427 02:02:34,510 --> 02:02:32,460 years and still save the faith of the 3428 02:02:37,970 --> 02:02:34,520 public they're never going to tell you 3429 02:02:39,290 --> 02:02:37,980 specifically and to the answer to the 3430 02:02:41,330 --> 02:02:39,300 question that a lot of people ask why 3431 02:02:43,250 --> 02:02:41,340 don't they land on the White House if we 3432 02:02:45,770 --> 02:02:43,260 we got our hands on one of these things 3433 02:02:48,109 --> 02:02:45,780 we would do every single test imaginable 3434 02:02:51,850 --> 02:02:48,119 and torture the poor thing and take 3435 02:02:54,589 --> 02:02:51,860 samples and cut into it and stand yeah 3436 02:02:56,089 --> 02:02:54,599 like we would torture it until it died 3437 02:02:59,209 --> 02:02:56,099 like why would they come here we're 3438 02:03:02,810 --> 02:02:59,219 horrible people so I remember the uh The 3439 02:03:05,810 --> 02:03:02,820 Simpsons episode where uh uh Mr Burns 3440 02:03:07,430 --> 02:03:05,820 goes through these radiation uh therapy 3441 02:03:09,709 --> 02:03:07,440 but he comes out of the woods always 3442 02:03:12,169 --> 02:03:09,719 disoriented and he his eyes are dilated 3443 02:03:14,930 --> 02:03:12,179 looks like an alien and I don't remember 3444 02:03:17,930 --> 02:03:14,940 he's radiating green light was that now 3445 02:03:19,790 --> 02:03:17,940 yeah and then he's like I bring you love 3446 02:03:22,250 --> 02:03:19,800 he says that to the whole town of of 3447 02:03:26,050 --> 02:03:22,260 Springfield and then Mo the bartender 3448 02:03:28,490 --> 02:03:26,060 says kill it it's bringing love 3449 02:03:30,290 --> 02:03:28,500 I keep thinking of that that's what we 3450 02:03:32,870 --> 02:03:30,300 would do right like yeah that's actually 3451 02:03:34,910 --> 02:03:32,880 amazing that's amazing 3452 02:03:37,129 --> 02:03:34,920 okay let me just wrap my give me a 3453 02:03:39,950 --> 02:03:37,139 moment because that that's that analogy 3454 02:03:43,669 --> 02:03:39,960 well that reference is perfect 3455 02:03:45,410 --> 02:03:43,679 we probably would fight like hell to 3456 02:03:48,350 --> 02:03:45,420 fight against the idea of bringing love 3457 02:03:51,050 --> 02:03:48,360 and unity to us all it's almost like the 3458 02:03:54,229 --> 02:03:51,060 the powers that be have convinced us all 3459 02:03:57,050 --> 02:03:54,239 that unifying is is a problem in the U.S 3460 02:03:58,850 --> 02:03:57,060 we have division is like it's like the 3461 02:04:00,649 --> 02:03:58,860 the name of the game here you know if 3462 02:04:01,910 --> 02:04:00,659 you're if the most divisive person is 3463 02:04:04,430 --> 02:04:01,920 the most famous person and that's 3464 02:04:07,250 --> 02:04:04,440 literally across again across all 3465 02:04:09,649 --> 02:04:07,260 spectrums I've heard somebody say that 3466 02:04:11,390 --> 02:04:09,659 if you are not if you don't believe now 3467 02:04:13,310 --> 02:04:11,400 if audience Gates were listening and you 3468 02:04:16,609 --> 02:04:13,320 don't know I am an African-American man 3469 02:04:18,649 --> 02:04:16,619 I'm a black brown person okay 3470 02:04:20,450 --> 02:04:18,659 so there's some things that I feel that 3471 02:04:22,250 --> 02:04:20,460 I have to keep take into account for 3472 02:04:24,109 --> 02:04:22,260 that some people might not and one of 3473 02:04:25,669 --> 02:04:24,119 those things of course is race I have to 3474 02:04:27,169 --> 02:04:25,679 think about it because my life has told 3475 02:04:29,450 --> 02:04:27,179 me and my experiences have told me hey 3476 02:04:31,550 --> 02:04:29,460 there's something to you being of this 3477 02:04:34,729 --> 02:04:31,560 color in this country on the one side 3478 02:04:35,330 --> 02:04:34,739 you have people that call themselves 3479 02:04:37,669 --> 02:04:35,340 um 3480 02:04:39,830 --> 02:04:37,679 people that believe in Justice people 3481 02:04:41,930 --> 02:04:39,840 that believe in Social equality but they 3482 02:04:44,089 --> 02:04:41,940 say that if somebody believes something 3483 02:04:46,490 --> 02:04:44,099 that is incorrect and that can be 3484 02:04:48,649 --> 02:04:46,500 harmful that they are that they that 3485 02:04:50,750 --> 02:04:48,659 they cannot come over to that side of 3486 02:04:52,070 --> 02:04:50,760 the aisle we will not accept you we 3487 02:04:53,089 --> 02:04:52,080 won't even give you at the time of day 3488 02:04:55,370 --> 02:04:53,099 as a matter of fact we're going to try 3489 02:04:57,589 --> 02:04:55,380 to ruin your life because we don't like 3490 02:04:59,510 --> 02:04:57,599 what you're saying we don't like you and 3491 02:05:01,669 --> 02:04:59,520 there is a I remember a man a black man 3492 02:05:03,350 --> 02:05:01,679 who would go to these KKK meetings 3493 02:05:05,390 --> 02:05:03,360 literally 3494 02:05:07,550 --> 02:05:05,400 to find out what they believe and what 3495 02:05:09,470 --> 02:05:07,560 they think and to to kind of connect 3496 02:05:11,149 --> 02:05:09,480 with them in a way that nobody would do 3497 02:05:12,770 --> 02:05:11,159 from from somebody like my community my 3498 02:05:14,930 --> 02:05:12,780 our community because he wants to 3499 02:05:17,750 --> 02:05:14,940 understand and by understanding you can 3500 02:05:19,609 --> 02:05:17,760 reach them yeah right it's it's by 3501 02:05:22,189 --> 02:05:19,619 exploring these ideas letting people say 3502 02:05:23,930 --> 02:05:22,199 I don't like you and here's why instead 3503 02:05:25,790 --> 02:05:23,940 of saying well that hurts me and I think 3504 02:05:27,229 --> 02:05:25,800 you need to be canceled or I think you 3505 02:05:29,510 --> 02:05:27,239 need to go to jail or I think you should 3506 02:05:31,550 --> 02:05:29,520 you know send a mob after you give 3507 02:05:33,890 --> 02:05:31,560 people a chance to speak and so we can 3508 02:05:36,669 --> 02:05:33,900 to understand them I watch a guy named 3509 02:05:39,350 --> 02:05:36,679 valosh argue with real Nazis literal 3510 02:05:42,050 --> 02:05:39,360 Nazis and by the end of the conversation 3511 02:05:43,490 --> 02:05:42,060 they thank him for listening to him to 3512 02:05:45,470 --> 02:05:43,500 them thank you for having the 3513 02:05:47,990 --> 02:05:45,480 conversation thing there's a camaraderie 3514 02:05:50,209 --> 02:05:48,000 and Walsh is on the side of the straight 3515 02:05:53,270 --> 02:05:50,219 up sjw far left you know whatever 3516 02:05:54,530 --> 02:05:53,280 whatever but he's but he was able to you 3517 02:05:56,750 --> 02:05:54,540 know talk to them and they appreciated 3518 02:05:58,070 --> 02:05:56,760 that now he wasn't nice to them but at 3519 02:06:00,050 --> 02:05:58,080 least he had the conversation and they 3520 02:06:01,850 --> 02:06:00,060 appreciated and I think that when we 3521 02:06:04,370 --> 02:06:01,860 look at our differences no matter how 3522 02:06:06,050 --> 02:06:04,380 vile how disgusting how wrong we think 3523 02:06:07,729 --> 02:06:06,060 they may be we have to listen to people 3524 02:06:10,669 --> 02:06:07,739 we have to give them a chance to talk 3525 02:06:11,689 --> 02:06:10,679 until into and to let them say I don't 3526 02:06:14,570 --> 02:06:11,699 like you 3527 02:06:16,970 --> 02:06:14,580 why and ask them why and let's figure it 3528 02:06:19,189 --> 02:06:16,980 out together that's the only way forward 3529 02:06:20,750 --> 02:06:19,199 for us all in this country that's what I 3530 02:06:22,609 --> 02:06:20,760 that's how I see things 3531 02:06:25,010 --> 02:06:22,619 that's really how I see things sometimes 3532 02:06:26,750 --> 02:06:25,020 we hear ourselves talk we realize how 3533 02:06:28,970 --> 02:06:26,760 ridiculous it is and a lot of people 3534 02:06:30,890 --> 02:06:28,980 that have had issues with hate or have 3535 02:06:32,390 --> 02:06:30,900 been affiliated with groups when they 3536 02:06:33,589 --> 02:06:32,400 look back and realize why they joined 3537 02:06:35,209 --> 02:06:33,599 the group it wasn't because they 3538 02:06:37,370 --> 02:06:35,219 actually had the hate it was because 3539 02:06:39,950 --> 02:06:37,380 there was a feeling of camaraderie and I 3540 02:06:42,470 --> 02:06:39,960 belong right and the ideology just kind 3541 02:06:44,629 --> 02:06:42,480 of it was Loosely there yeah they 3542 02:06:46,189 --> 02:06:44,639 weren't like completely against it but 3543 02:06:48,770 --> 02:06:46,199 they weren't as hardcore as they became 3544 02:06:50,750 --> 02:06:48,780 that was the mob mentality and what wore 3545 02:06:52,550 --> 02:06:50,760 off on them and when they you know 3546 02:06:54,649 --> 02:06:52,560 changed their lives and said I can't 3547 02:06:56,990 --> 02:06:54,659 believe I did that for 20 years when you 3548 02:06:59,629 --> 02:06:57,000 look at the causational effects it 3549 02:07:02,510 --> 02:06:59,639 wasn't deep rooted hatred no it may have 3550 02:07:05,089 --> 02:07:02,520 been robbed by somebody as a kid and now 3551 02:07:07,850 --> 02:07:05,099 I hate them it was in a it's trauma like 3552 02:07:11,290 --> 02:07:07,860 most people's baggage is trauma related 3553 02:07:14,810 --> 02:07:11,300 family relationship violence cultural 3554 02:07:17,629 --> 02:07:14,820 monetary whatever it is it's all like a 3555 02:07:19,669 --> 02:07:17,639 breach of that trusted love and rather 3556 02:07:22,850 --> 02:07:19,679 than dealing with that that hurt like 3557 02:07:24,530 --> 02:07:22,860 you said it just becomes I hate you and 3558 02:07:27,770 --> 02:07:24,540 I'll spend my whole life making people 3559 02:07:29,330 --> 02:07:27,780 just like you uncomfortable you know and 3560 02:07:31,850 --> 02:07:29,340 you still never heal you've never still 3561 02:07:33,709 --> 02:07:31,860 dealt with that initial trauma and you 3562 02:07:35,750 --> 02:07:33,719 know you pass that that on to your kids 3563 02:07:38,149 --> 02:07:35,760 and then they pass it on to their kids 3564 02:07:40,189 --> 02:07:38,159 like racism for instance if you think 3565 02:07:43,370 --> 02:07:40,199 about it usually comes from the the 3566 02:07:45,169 --> 02:07:43,380 parents side right yeah when I was a kid 3567 02:07:47,390 --> 02:07:45,179 because I was French Canadian I lived 3568 02:07:48,890 --> 02:07:47,400 out here on on the coast and 3569 02:07:50,330 --> 02:07:48,900 um you know there was a separation at 3570 02:07:53,810 --> 02:07:50,340 least Quebec was trying to separate he 3571 02:07:56,149 --> 02:07:53,820 thinks it's like 93-94 and uh Quebec was 3572 02:07:57,830 --> 02:07:56,159 hosting an election to try to see if 3573 02:07:59,750 --> 02:07:57,840 they could separate from Canada it was a 3574 02:08:01,550 --> 02:07:59,760 big deal and it should be 3575 02:08:03,109 --> 02:08:01,560 um but when I was here in school all I 3576 02:08:05,149 --> 02:08:03,119 would hear the kids was like you guys 3577 02:08:07,609 --> 02:08:05,159 French Canadians bunch of separatists 3578 02:08:09,410 --> 02:08:07,619 and blah blah blah and you're a waste of 3579 02:08:11,390 --> 02:08:09,420 time and like you could tell it was the 3580 02:08:13,129 --> 02:08:11,400 dad that was talking it wasn't the kid 3581 02:08:16,070 --> 02:08:13,139 right I was just hearing what the dad's 3582 02:08:18,410 --> 02:08:16,080 opinion at home was and uh I would go to 3583 02:08:20,810 --> 02:08:18,420 Quebec by the time the election went 3584 02:08:22,850 --> 02:08:20,820 through uh and it didn't pass Quebec's 3585 02:08:24,709 --> 02:08:22,860 still part of Canada but 3586 02:08:26,450 --> 02:08:24,719 the French people were saying the exact 3587 02:08:28,310 --> 02:08:26,460 same thing about the English people that 3588 02:08:31,070 --> 02:08:28,320 what they were saying in BC like bunch 3589 02:08:34,310 --> 02:08:31,080 of English people you know good it's 3590 02:08:35,510 --> 02:08:34,320 like dude it's the same crap on just 3591 02:08:37,370 --> 02:08:35,520 because you speak a different language 3592 02:08:39,109 --> 02:08:37,380 you view somebody else as being 3593 02:08:41,750 --> 02:08:39,119 different than you having different 3594 02:08:44,209 --> 02:08:41,760 standards in you and as we do that 3595 02:08:46,430 --> 02:08:44,219 globally like you know I mean not saying 3596 02:08:50,209 --> 02:08:46,440 that you know Iran is the place to be 3597 02:08:52,010 --> 02:08:50,219 right now but our our view of Iran you 3598 02:08:53,510 --> 02:08:52,020 know is is by the the Western media 3599 02:08:55,250 --> 02:08:53,520 right they're showing us the bad parts 3600 02:08:57,770 --> 02:08:55,260 of Iran there probably are some good 3601 02:08:59,570 --> 02:08:57,780 parts we'll never know because it's all 3602 02:09:01,070 --> 02:08:59,580 about a point of view what we're showing 3603 02:09:03,109 --> 02:09:01,080 what we're taught 3604 02:09:06,109 --> 02:09:03,119 um you know we're we're trained that way 3605 02:09:08,990 --> 02:09:06,119 right so it's a big problem we we need 3606 02:09:11,030 --> 02:09:09,000 to to learn to not let people think for 3607 02:09:13,370 --> 02:09:11,040 us but allow ourselves to think 3608 02:09:15,290 --> 02:09:13,380 well 500 years ago other cultures coming 3609 02:09:17,390 --> 02:09:15,300 was bad news they were coming to take 3610 02:09:19,729 --> 02:09:17,400 your [\h__\h] right and steal your jewels 3611 02:09:22,310 --> 02:09:19,739 and rape your women and burn your city 3612 02:09:25,189 --> 02:09:22,320 down so that's kind of like our archaic 3613 02:09:26,990 --> 02:09:25,199 brain reacting not our civilized brain 3614 02:09:29,030 --> 02:09:27,000 or what we think is a civilized brain 3615 02:09:30,470 --> 02:09:29,040 that's just the reaction of I don't 3616 02:09:32,629 --> 02:09:30,480 recognize these people do you know them 3617 02:09:34,990 --> 02:09:32,639 no we need to panic because it was 3618 02:09:37,129 --> 02:09:35,000 always bad news nobody would track 3619 02:09:39,109 --> 02:09:37,139 months and months and months and bring 3620 02:09:40,970 --> 02:09:39,119 food and rations unless they were going 3621 02:09:44,629 --> 02:09:40,980 to take you over there was no 3622 02:09:46,970 --> 02:09:44,639 vacationing you know 2 000 years ago I 3623 02:09:48,950 --> 02:09:46,980 think that's just yeah yeah it's within 3624 02:09:51,770 --> 02:09:48,960 us that's why you're trying to build a 3625 02:09:53,870 --> 02:09:51,780 freaking wall right A big one we call it 3626 02:09:55,729 --> 02:09:53,880 a great wall literally yeah you know you 3627 02:09:58,189 --> 02:09:55,739 know there's a there's some there's a 3628 02:10:00,290 --> 02:09:58,199 lot to be said about the I think that it 3629 02:10:02,629 --> 02:10:00,300 all boils down to to some pretty basic 3630 02:10:05,390 --> 02:10:02,639 principles what some things like 3631 02:10:07,370 --> 02:10:05,400 compassion something's like trying to 3632 02:10:09,169 --> 02:10:07,380 understand and connect having a desire 3633 02:10:11,750 --> 02:10:09,179 to connect we all want to connect right 3634 02:10:14,089 --> 02:10:11,760 and expanding your tribe from the small 3635 02:10:16,370 --> 02:10:14,099 you know the small circle that you have 3636 02:10:18,770 --> 02:10:16,380 and being able to expand spin that tribe 3637 02:10:21,050 --> 02:10:18,780 and a lot of that I know that there's a 3638 02:10:22,490 --> 02:10:21,060 danger to that in today's world but I 3639 02:10:25,189 --> 02:10:22,500 think at least if we have those 3640 02:10:26,990 --> 02:10:25,199 principles then as a consequence we will 3641 02:10:29,390 --> 02:10:27,000 naturally just evolve into a society 3642 02:10:31,070 --> 02:10:29,400 that does that that is able to feel safe 3643 02:10:32,570 --> 02:10:31,080 around each other where we can feel safe 3644 02:10:36,290 --> 02:10:32,580 just around each other but when we have 3645 02:10:38,629 --> 02:10:36,300 this very Primal you know protective and 3646 02:10:40,010 --> 02:10:38,639 animalistic uh uh feeling about each 3647 02:10:42,169 --> 02:10:40,020 other because of what you just said 3648 02:10:44,629 --> 02:10:42,179 Louis because of how things used to be 3649 02:10:46,490 --> 02:10:44,639 we we are still almost like it's 3650 02:10:48,290 --> 02:10:46,500 ingrained in us like it's now it's like 3651 02:10:50,390 --> 02:10:48,300 a biological process to just be 3652 02:10:52,310 --> 02:10:50,400 naturally afraid 3653 02:10:54,589 --> 02:10:52,320 um if we keep functioning from that 3654 02:10:56,390 --> 02:10:54,599 place of fear and not from a place of 3655 02:10:58,370 --> 02:10:56,400 love and compassion and understanding 3656 02:11:00,169 --> 02:10:58,380 and wanting and a desire to connect then 3657 02:11:02,270 --> 02:11:00,179 we will never become the society that we 3658 02:11:05,149 --> 02:11:02,280 can be we'll never achieve as a society 3659 02:11:07,430 --> 02:11:05,159 as a glow as a world our full potential 3660 02:11:09,530 --> 02:11:07,440 and will always be struggling and there 3661 02:11:12,050 --> 02:11:09,540 will always always be suffering and and 3662 02:11:14,209 --> 02:11:12,060 a lot Mass you know 3663 02:11:16,430 --> 02:11:14,219 um I guess genocides and murder and War 3664 02:11:20,089 --> 02:11:16,440 and all this stuff our own destruction 3665 02:11:22,490 --> 02:11:20,099 is eminent and unless we literally start 3666 02:11:24,530 --> 02:11:22,500 our thinking from that place of 3667 02:11:26,689 --> 02:11:24,540 compassion and wanting to understand and 3668 02:11:29,209 --> 02:11:26,699 connect we're not going to make it we're 3669 02:11:30,589 --> 02:11:29,219 not going to make it bottom line and 3670 02:11:33,290 --> 02:11:30,599 whenever civilization is watching this 3671 02:11:34,609 --> 02:11:33,300 happen or whatever they are you know 3672 02:11:37,550 --> 02:11:34,619 whether interdimensional or 3673 02:11:40,129 --> 02:11:37,560 extraterrestrial or under the sea or you 3674 02:11:42,169 --> 02:11:40,139 know the atlanteans 3675 02:11:45,050 --> 02:11:42,179 I wonder if they see that 3676 02:11:47,570 --> 02:11:45,060 and are trying to to give us a message 3677 02:11:50,330 --> 02:11:47,580 or if they're preparing for what we have 3678 02:11:52,850 --> 02:11:50,340 decided is going to be Our Fate we've 3679 02:11:54,470 --> 02:11:52,860 chosen it and they see that and they're 3680 02:11:55,850 --> 02:11:54,480 like non-interventional you know not 3681 02:11:57,290 --> 02:11:55,860 interventionalists they just kind of 3682 02:11:58,850 --> 02:11:57,300 have to wait and see what we do as a 3683 02:12:00,410 --> 02:11:58,860 civilization and let us 3684 02:12:01,609 --> 02:12:00,420 on our own path 3685 02:12:03,770 --> 02:12:01,619 I don't know 3686 02:12:05,870 --> 02:12:03,780 but that's why they're making clones 3687 02:12:07,490 --> 02:12:05,880 because they know we're all gonna you 3688 02:12:10,089 --> 02:12:07,500 know disable blow ourselves up to 3689 02:12:12,589 --> 02:12:10,099 nothing and they're just making clones 3690 02:12:14,450 --> 02:12:12,599 trying to keep the species this guy had 3691 02:12:16,010 --> 02:12:14,460 great hair we need another one like them 3692 02:12:18,050 --> 02:12:16,020 but get rid of the shitty brain let's 3693 02:12:19,729 --> 02:12:18,060 give them a good brain because she's a 3694 02:12:21,890 --> 02:12:19,739 good looking guy 3695 02:12:24,109 --> 02:12:21,900 Jason I'm talking about oh well 3696 02:12:26,689 --> 02:12:24,119 naturally yeah naturally yeah the clone 3697 02:12:29,030 --> 02:12:26,699 of Jason is going to be phenomenal just 3698 02:12:30,649 --> 02:12:29,040 a brainiac I'm telling you 3699 02:12:32,510 --> 02:12:30,659 so we covered a lot of things today and 3700 02:12:33,589 --> 02:12:32,520 honestly I I didn't think it would last 3701 02:12:35,149 --> 02:12:33,599 this long I'm really glad you guys 3702 02:12:36,530 --> 02:12:35,159 stayed for with me this long I want to 3703 02:12:38,209 --> 02:12:36,540 talk more about you now I want to talk 3704 02:12:40,250 --> 02:12:38,219 about your podcast I want to talk about 3705 02:12:41,990 --> 02:12:40,260 what you're doing what you've done you 3706 02:12:43,550 --> 02:12:42,000 know I watched I've been watching all of 3707 02:12:45,709 --> 02:12:43,560 your content since I met you got a lot 3708 02:12:47,750 --> 02:12:45,719 of content a lot of your contents on on 3709 02:12:49,129 --> 02:12:47,760 um on your podcast version but there's 3710 02:12:50,390 --> 02:12:49,139 about your YouTube channel I'm almost 3711 02:12:53,990 --> 02:12:50,400 through your YouTube channel I'm almost 3712 02:12:55,729 --> 02:12:54,000 walking through it thank you so oh thank 3713 02:12:58,729 --> 02:12:55,739 you you put hey man you guys put this 3714 02:13:00,229 --> 02:12:58,739 out there I I am I I'm I'm eating it up 3715 02:13:02,209 --> 02:13:00,239 I'm eating it up and I can't always get 3716 02:13:04,189 --> 02:13:02,219 to the newer stuff because since I've 3717 02:13:05,270 --> 02:13:04,199 I've been researching and having to do 3718 02:13:07,609 --> 02:13:05,280 my own topics especially with the 3719 02:13:09,229 --> 02:13:07,619 weekend show that I'm on now on SLR it's 3720 02:13:11,750 --> 02:13:09,239 been it's been with my business it's 3721 02:13:14,209 --> 02:13:11,760 been very difficult lately but man I was 3722 02:13:16,010 --> 02:13:14,219 killing your content when I first when I 3723 02:13:17,330 --> 02:13:16,020 first discovered you I was killing that 3724 02:13:19,189 --> 02:13:17,340 content 3725 02:13:20,689 --> 02:13:19,199 um so you guys interview everyone you 3726 02:13:22,069 --> 02:13:20,699 interview people like I said before like 3727 02:13:25,010 --> 02:13:22,079 Jacqueline you're gonna be interviewing 3728 02:13:26,810 --> 02:13:25,020 Gary Nolan and and now you're going to 3729 02:13:29,930 --> 02:13:26,820 be interviewing 3730 02:13:32,390 --> 02:13:29,940 um uh uh Richard Dolan which uh which is 3731 02:13:35,209 --> 02:13:32,400 going to be oh man I mean do you talk 3732 02:13:36,890 --> 02:13:35,219 about the guys that know stuff right the 3733 02:13:40,069 --> 02:13:36,900 biggest investigative journalists and 3734 02:13:41,750 --> 02:13:40,079 reporters of of UAP and UFO and alien 3735 02:13:43,250 --> 02:13:41,760 and extraterrestrial they've got books 3736 02:13:44,510 --> 02:13:43,260 out they got the advice coldheart with 3737 02:13:46,490 --> 02:13:44,520 need to know 3738 02:13:48,649 --> 02:13:46,500 um in his book uh in plain sight which 3739 02:13:50,450 --> 02:13:48,659 I've read I have that book oh my gosh 3740 02:13:53,330 --> 02:13:50,460 you gotta read it and then of course 3741 02:13:55,310 --> 02:13:53,340 with Richard Dolan I read his book 3742 02:13:56,990 --> 02:13:55,320 um alien agendas which is a speculative 3743 02:13:59,089 --> 02:13:57,000 analysis on these different types of 3744 02:14:00,890 --> 02:13:59,099 beings and it might be according to what 3745 02:14:02,510 --> 02:14:00,900 eyewitness testimony and what their 3746 02:14:04,069 --> 02:14:02,520 agendas might be it's a speculative 3747 02:14:06,169 --> 02:14:04,079 analysis and it's really interesting so 3748 02:14:07,850 --> 02:14:06,179 you guys have a lot in store you've got 3749 02:14:10,010 --> 02:14:07,860 some you've got a lot of questions you 3750 02:14:12,169 --> 02:14:10,020 can ask you know and I always ask people 3751 02:14:14,209 --> 02:14:12,179 after after all the people you've talked 3752 02:14:15,830 --> 02:14:14,219 to but for all the things that you've 3753 02:14:17,750 --> 02:14:15,840 probably heard 3754 02:14:18,470 --> 02:14:17,760 I'm gonna keep asking this every time we 3755 02:14:20,990 --> 02:14:18,480 talk 3756 02:14:24,470 --> 02:14:21,000 what do you think about the phenomena 3757 02:14:26,810 --> 02:14:24,480 right now what's your view about what it 3758 02:14:28,669 --> 02:14:26,820 is who's behind the craft 3759 02:14:30,530 --> 02:14:28,679 and that you can say I don't want you to 3760 02:14:31,430 --> 02:14:30,540 disrespect anybody's confidence you know 3761 02:14:33,410 --> 02:14:31,440 if they told you something you're not 3762 02:14:35,450 --> 02:14:33,420 supposed to tell but what do you think 3763 02:14:36,950 --> 02:14:35,460 that this phenomena is 3764 02:14:38,629 --> 02:14:36,960 I know that you believe it's multiple 3765 02:14:39,709 --> 02:14:38,639 but I mean the intelligence behind give 3766 02:14:42,470 --> 02:14:39,719 me some ideas of what you think it is 3767 02:14:47,270 --> 02:14:42,480 and what do you think its intentions are 3768 02:14:51,649 --> 02:14:49,370 um you know what I'm gonna say for my 3769 02:14:52,850 --> 02:14:51,659 part I think that it's um because we 3770 02:14:55,790 --> 02:14:52,860 explored 3771 02:14:57,350 --> 02:14:55,800 many aspects of this phenomenon but one 3772 02:14:58,850 --> 02:14:57,360 thing that always comes back because 3773 02:15:01,790 --> 02:14:58,860 there's there's certain things that you 3774 02:15:04,069 --> 02:15:01,800 start noticing there's like patterns uh 3775 02:15:06,350 --> 02:15:04,079 when you talk to investigators about you 3776 02:15:09,290 --> 02:15:06,360 know this like I mentioned this could be 3777 02:15:11,629 --> 02:15:09,300 a universally uh course right you got 3778 02:15:14,689 --> 02:15:11,639 cattle mutilation abduction phenomenon 3779 02:15:16,609 --> 02:15:14,699 crop circles you got Close Encounters 3780 02:15:18,910 --> 02:15:16,619 you got you know like I mentioned the 3781 02:15:21,890 --> 02:15:18,920 abduction and and just there's different 3782 02:15:23,990 --> 02:15:21,900 varieties of of things like even Bigfoot 3783 02:15:26,030 --> 02:15:24,000 somehow right worked its way in there 3784 02:15:29,689 --> 02:15:26,040 and I was like so adamant on not having 3785 02:15:31,370 --> 02:15:29,699 Bigfoot being part of it but just all 3786 02:15:32,750 --> 02:15:31,380 the you know people we start talking to 3787 02:15:34,669 --> 02:15:32,760 they're all like oh yeah Bigfoot's 3788 02:15:36,709 --> 02:15:34,679 related I'm like damn it 3789 02:15:38,510 --> 02:15:36,719 um because it's if we have to deal with 3790 02:15:40,669 --> 02:15:38,520 it right but it doesn't make sense of 3791 02:15:43,010 --> 02:15:40,679 the world not be confused more exactly 3792 02:15:46,010 --> 02:15:43,020 don't add the extra stuff to it right 3793 02:15:47,990 --> 02:15:46,020 um you know Elvis is still alive uh the 3794 02:15:49,609 --> 02:15:48,000 but the main thing is that I think that 3795 02:15:52,069 --> 02:15:49,619 Consciousness keeps coming back and 3796 02:15:53,990 --> 02:15:52,079 keeps creeping into the subject like you 3797 02:15:56,689 --> 02:15:54,000 know consciousness has a huge part to 3798 02:16:00,290 --> 02:15:56,699 play with this and I asked Louie and uh 3799 02:16:03,350 --> 02:16:00,300 Reverend Michael Carter the other 3800 02:16:04,850 --> 02:16:03,360 night I just heard the other day uh you 3801 02:16:08,030 --> 02:16:04,860 know what do you guys think it's a 3802 02:16:12,350 --> 02:16:08,040 universal Consciousness because 3803 02:16:14,810 --> 02:16:12,360 Consciousness and awareness of self is a 3804 02:16:16,129 --> 02:16:14,820 natural progression of the universe the 3805 02:16:18,050 --> 02:16:16,139 universe start with the big bang the 3806 02:16:20,810 --> 02:16:18,060 cool down molecules started forming 3807 02:16:22,970 --> 02:16:20,820 together and eventually what it leads to 3808 02:16:24,770 --> 02:16:22,980 is creating life and then that life 3809 02:16:27,350 --> 02:16:24,780 eventually creates Consciousness and 3810 02:16:29,030 --> 02:16:27,360 Consciousness once it's elevated high 3811 02:16:31,370 --> 02:16:29,040 enough can do probably the most 3812 02:16:34,009 --> 02:16:31,380 wonderful things in this universe it's a 3813 02:16:35,750 --> 02:16:34,019 natural progression of it and maybe our 3814 02:16:37,370 --> 02:16:35,760 Consciousness is the same as all the 3815 02:16:38,750 --> 02:16:37,380 other species that are out there we're 3816 02:16:40,969 --> 02:16:38,760 just at different levels of 3817 02:16:42,709 --> 02:16:40,979 understanding it maybe if we all 3818 02:16:45,589 --> 02:16:42,719 understand that we're all part of this 3819 02:16:47,990 --> 02:16:45,599 Universal Consciousness or God as you 3820 02:16:49,849 --> 02:16:48,000 will and that that's where we go back 3821 02:16:51,950 --> 02:16:49,859 after we die we go back to this great 3822 02:16:54,709 --> 02:16:51,960 Consciousness and maybe repeat a cycle 3823 02:16:56,690 --> 02:16:54,719 somewhere else who knows but that's what 3824 02:16:58,730 --> 02:16:56,700 I'm starting to think now that this has 3825 02:17:02,030 --> 02:16:58,740 a huge part to play in all of this and 3826 02:17:04,070 --> 02:17:02,040 it's constantly mentioned to people and 3827 02:17:05,330 --> 02:17:04,080 you know they'll see Grays and Grays 3828 02:17:07,250 --> 02:17:05,340 will say you know like you need to raise 3829 02:17:09,589 --> 02:17:07,260 your Consciousness or I felt like my 3830 02:17:11,150 --> 02:17:09,599 Consciousness was alive or I flew the 3831 02:17:12,709 --> 02:17:11,160 craft with my Consciousness like some 3832 02:17:14,450 --> 02:17:12,719 people actually get to fly the crafts 3833 02:17:16,250 --> 02:17:14,460 right right and you know their 3834 02:17:18,169 --> 02:17:16,260 Consciousness expands all the way around 3835 02:17:20,150 --> 02:17:18,179 the crafts they become the craft itself 3836 02:17:22,730 --> 02:17:20,160 and they could do whatever the hell they 3837 02:17:24,770 --> 02:17:22,740 want so we keep hearing that so that's 3838 02:17:26,810 --> 02:17:24,780 my theory so far 3839 02:17:28,910 --> 02:17:26,820 for me it's it's very similar to what 3840 02:17:31,429 --> 02:17:28,920 Jason said there it's I've become less 3841 02:17:34,070 --> 02:17:31,439 of a nuts and bolts person I don't 3842 02:17:36,469 --> 02:17:34,080 actually think I believe anymore that 3843 02:17:39,830 --> 02:17:36,479 little green man or flying on mechanical 3844 02:17:42,049 --> 02:17:39,840 ships from 200 million light years away 3845 02:17:43,849 --> 02:17:42,059 I don't think you're gonna hit an 3846 02:17:45,290 --> 02:17:43,859 asteroid even if you could go 10 times 3847 02:17:48,410 --> 02:17:45,300 the speed of light you're gonna hit 3848 02:17:50,810 --> 02:17:48,420 something so I I don't believe it like 3849 02:17:53,270 --> 02:17:50,820 it used to be on The Fringe way I think 3850 02:17:55,129 --> 02:17:53,280 it's a lot deeper it's above our pay 3851 02:17:57,230 --> 02:17:55,139 grade I don't think we're actually gonna 3852 02:17:59,690 --> 02:17:57,240 figure it out I really don't I think we 3853 02:18:02,509 --> 02:17:59,700 will get acknowledgment that there are 3854 02:18:03,950 --> 02:18:02,519 other life forms out there I think we 3855 02:18:06,530 --> 02:18:03,960 are all sentient beings the only 3856 02:18:08,929 --> 02:18:06,540 difference between us and animals is we 3857 02:18:12,110 --> 02:18:08,939 question you know who am I why am I here 3858 02:18:14,990 --> 02:18:12,120 what is this all for uh I think we were 3859 02:18:16,490 --> 02:18:15,000 given that gift to question and why were 3860 02:18:18,169 --> 02:18:16,500 we right something wants us to be 3861 02:18:20,570 --> 02:18:18,179 awakened none of the other animal 3862 02:18:23,690 --> 02:18:20,580 kingdom has that it's you know animals 3863 02:18:25,730 --> 02:18:23,700 will eat their babies if it comes to 3864 02:18:27,410 --> 02:18:25,740 them or the baby's life a human being 3865 02:18:29,089 --> 02:18:27,420 will die before they eat their infant 3866 02:18:30,589 --> 02:18:29,099 right for the moment unless you live in 3867 02:18:32,509 --> 02:18:30,599 Russia they ate their own kids during 3868 02:18:35,230 --> 02:18:32,519 the second world war unfortunately but 3869 02:18:37,910 --> 02:18:35,240 times were tough sometimes 3870 02:18:40,990 --> 02:18:37,920 but yeah to answer your question Marquis 3871 02:18:43,790 --> 02:18:41,000 I I've become more spiritual nothing 3872 02:18:46,250 --> 02:18:43,800 reinforces my belief in God whatever 3873 02:18:49,849 --> 02:18:46,260 that looks like whatever energy that is 3874 02:18:51,709 --> 02:18:49,859 nothing reinforces that more then the 3875 02:18:54,169 --> 02:18:51,719 obvious possibility that there's more 3876 02:18:57,110 --> 02:18:54,179 than life on just this planet like the 3877 02:18:59,990 --> 02:18:57,120 type of creative being that I believe 3878 02:19:02,270 --> 02:19:00,000 God is isn't limited to just putting 3879 02:19:05,389 --> 02:19:02,280 simple life and we are simple life 3880 02:19:08,089 --> 02:19:05,399 simple-minded life anyway on one little 3881 02:19:10,669 --> 02:19:08,099 watery Stone in the universe with 3882 02:19:11,990 --> 02:19:10,679 potentially trillions of planets like I 3883 02:19:16,070 --> 02:19:12,000 just think it's the peak of human 3884 02:19:17,209 --> 02:19:16,080 ignorance to think we know what it is or 3885 02:19:18,770 --> 02:19:17,219 even if you don't if you're one of those 3886 02:19:21,410 --> 02:19:18,780 people that doesn't say I know what it 3887 02:19:23,570 --> 02:19:21,420 is if you say it's definitely not that 3888 02:19:25,129 --> 02:19:23,580 you're saying the exact same thing right 3889 02:19:26,929 --> 02:19:25,139 because if it's not that then you no 3890 02:19:29,209 --> 02:19:26,939 it's not that therefore you know what it 3891 02:19:32,990 --> 02:19:29,219 is so we catch ourselves in these 3892 02:19:35,389 --> 02:19:33,000 negative patterns of expertise we are 3893 02:19:36,589 --> 02:19:35,399 all couch ufologist people even the 3894 02:19:39,589 --> 02:19:36,599 people writing books and making 3895 02:19:43,009 --> 02:19:39,599 documentaries right nobody knows or has 3896 02:19:44,690 --> 02:19:43,019 proof so you know recently on my 3897 02:19:46,250 --> 02:19:44,700 Facebook page I'm at the point now where 3898 02:19:48,710 --> 02:19:46,260 I can't really get many more friends 3899 02:19:50,330 --> 02:19:48,720 because they cap you out at like four or 3900 02:19:53,210 --> 02:19:50,340 five thousand or whatever it is oh wow 3901 02:19:54,590 --> 02:19:53,220 so I'm I'm deleting flat earthers I'm 3902 02:19:55,910 --> 02:19:54,600 deleting people that are calling people 3903 02:19:57,530 --> 02:19:55,920 idiots because they don't know what 3904 02:20:00,469 --> 02:19:57,540 they're talking about I'm just looking 3905 02:20:03,650 --> 02:20:00,479 for an excuse to wax a few people for 3906 02:20:05,389 --> 02:20:03,660 being non-tolerant right so the the best 3907 02:20:07,429 --> 02:20:05,399 thing that I could suggest to anybody 3908 02:20:10,190 --> 02:20:07,439 whether you've been doing this for 50 3909 02:20:11,450 --> 02:20:10,200 years and you should know more you 3910 02:20:13,910 --> 02:20:11,460 should also be more humble because 3911 02:20:16,610 --> 02:20:13,920 people like Jacque Valley who have a 3912 02:20:18,349 --> 02:20:16,620 right to say hey I know more than you I 3913 02:20:21,590 --> 02:20:18,359 don't care what you think he's even 3914 02:20:23,270 --> 02:20:21,600 saying suspend judgment don't as soon as 3915 02:20:26,630 --> 02:20:23,280 you get to the point where you think you 3916 02:20:29,150 --> 02:20:26,640 know you're losing so let it be this 3917 02:20:32,150 --> 02:20:29,160 mystical thing again if you are a 3918 02:20:34,010 --> 02:20:32,160 spiritual person or not regardless we 3919 02:20:37,010 --> 02:20:34,020 are not in captivity right now from 3920 02:20:39,410 --> 02:20:37,020 these beings no they are not hurting us 3921 02:20:41,389 --> 02:20:39,420 or whatever it's maybe it's an agenda 3922 02:20:43,670 --> 02:20:41,399 future plan a million and one theories 3923 02:20:46,010 --> 02:20:43,680 but at the end of the day I still 3924 02:20:48,530 --> 02:20:46,020 believe that if your light is bright 3925 02:20:50,690 --> 02:20:48,540 Darkness can affect you even in the form 3926 02:20:52,730 --> 02:20:50,700 of poltergeist I never worry that ghosts 3927 02:20:55,910 --> 02:20:52,740 are going to haunt me because I know my 3928 02:20:58,010 --> 02:20:55,920 energy level I know my I know the 3929 02:20:59,750 --> 02:20:58,020 brightness of my candle so I'm not 3930 02:21:03,170 --> 02:20:59,760 scared of that stuff and I'm not scared 3931 02:21:04,969 --> 02:21:03,180 of aliens or what it could be I don't as 3932 02:21:06,889 --> 02:21:04,979 sad as it is for me to realize I don't 3933 02:21:10,370 --> 02:21:06,899 think we're ever going to know I don't 3934 02:21:11,809 --> 02:21:10,380 think we're wired to know but I think we 3935 02:21:14,270 --> 02:21:11,819 will get closer I think we will get 3936 02:21:16,070 --> 02:21:14,280 acknowledgment uh and I think it is for 3937 02:21:18,110 --> 02:21:16,080 our better good I don't think we're too 3938 02:21:20,389 --> 02:21:18,120 far gone I know you're like we've 3939 02:21:22,070 --> 02:21:20,399 decided we've made our own choice and 3940 02:21:24,050 --> 02:21:22,080 they're here to pick up the scraps I 3941 02:21:26,330 --> 02:21:24,060 don't think it's that far gone yet we've 3942 02:21:29,270 --> 02:21:26,340 been down this road before for but 3943 02:21:31,010 --> 02:21:29,280 creation and destruction is cyclical if 3944 02:21:32,510 --> 02:21:31,020 we don't do it ourselves nature will do 3945 02:21:34,429 --> 02:21:32,520 it in 100 billion years when the 3946 02:21:37,429 --> 02:21:34,439 universe cools down so 3947 02:21:39,530 --> 02:21:37,439 just be humble and just meditate if 3948 02:21:41,510 --> 02:21:39,540 everybody meditated we would all be more 3949 02:21:44,750 --> 02:21:41,520 calm people we would find our own 3950 02:21:47,150 --> 02:21:44,760 version of God spirituality you would 3951 02:21:49,790 --> 02:21:47,160 worry more about your stuff and less 3952 02:21:52,370 --> 02:21:49,800 about other people's stuff so my advice 3953 02:21:54,889 --> 02:21:52,380 for 2023 is aliens are real and you 3954 02:21:56,630 --> 02:21:54,899 should meditate more that's good it's a 3955 02:21:58,070 --> 02:21:56,640 bumper sticker right there great that's 3956 02:21:59,210 --> 02:21:58,080 awesome I'm gonna have to tag hold on 3957 02:22:00,710 --> 02:21:59,220 let me see I'll say that with that 3958 02:22:02,030 --> 02:22:00,720 comment as well so you can quote me on 3959 02:22:04,309 --> 02:22:02,040 that people Ian's are real and we should 3960 02:22:07,670 --> 02:22:04,319 meditate people okay so two things one 3961 02:22:08,990 --> 02:22:07,680 those answers were I my brain itched for 3962 02:22:10,670 --> 02:22:09,000 like what what do you think what do you 3963 02:22:13,070 --> 02:22:10,680 think it is you guys just scratch the H 3964 02:22:16,429 --> 02:22:13,080 in my brain with your answers good like 3965 02:22:18,650 --> 02:22:16,439 both of you so that the Consciousness 3966 02:22:20,690 --> 02:22:18,660 centered um understanding of the 3967 02:22:22,910 --> 02:22:20,700 phenomena I think I do believe that more 3968 02:22:24,410 --> 02:22:22,920 and so now I think we're looking at a 3969 02:22:26,330 --> 02:22:24,420 phenomena that's operating more on the 3970 02:22:28,670 --> 02:22:26,340 on the quantum realm in the quantum 3971 02:22:30,050 --> 02:22:28,680 realm which is more along Alliance of 3972 02:22:32,389 --> 02:22:30,060 what we would consider the spiritual 3973 02:22:34,070 --> 02:22:32,399 energetic or vibration or whatever and 3974 02:22:36,610 --> 02:22:34,080 when I think about trying to understand 3975 02:22:40,849 --> 02:22:36,620 the phenomena I think of Doctor Strange 3976 02:22:42,590 --> 02:22:40,859 or that movie uh Inception where they're 3977 02:22:43,910 --> 02:22:42,600 like jumping into dream realities and 3978 02:22:45,170 --> 02:22:43,920 things are changing and they're Dynamic 3979 02:22:47,090 --> 02:22:45,180 and it's there's no catching hold of 3980 02:22:49,309 --> 02:22:47,100 anything and it's all like well you know 3981 02:22:50,809 --> 02:22:49,319 you can never really get a grasp on what 3982 02:22:52,429 --> 02:22:50,819 but when you do think you have it it 3983 02:22:54,770 --> 02:22:52,439 changes it's like that it's like that 3984 02:22:56,030 --> 02:22:54,780 it's just like that where whatever this 3985 02:22:57,889 --> 02:22:56,040 is 3986 02:22:59,510 --> 02:22:57,899 as soon as we think we might have an 3987 02:23:01,550 --> 02:22:59,520 understanding of what this aspect is 3988 02:23:02,990 --> 02:23:01,560 Boom surprise there's another aspect 3989 02:23:04,010 --> 02:23:03,000 that we didn't even know about oh by the 3990 02:23:06,349 --> 02:23:04,020 way there's another one by the way 3991 02:23:09,349 --> 02:23:06,359 there's another one and uh in the in the 3992 02:23:12,230 --> 02:23:09,359 possibilities continue to multiply it's 3993 02:23:14,870 --> 02:23:12,240 like the phenomena if it is either is 3994 02:23:16,670 --> 02:23:14,880 either making sure that we never figure 3995 02:23:18,950 --> 02:23:16,680 out what it is because or that it's just 3996 02:23:21,410 --> 02:23:18,960 by Nature just not understandable by us 3997 02:23:23,809 --> 02:23:21,420 like you said and then again every time 3998 02:23:25,190 --> 02:23:23,819 we think we've got it it's more multiple 3999 02:23:27,230 --> 02:23:25,200 things pop up to show us that there's 4000 02:23:29,150 --> 02:23:27,240 more to it that's why my my 4001 02:23:31,370 --> 02:23:29,160 understanding of it keeps changing but 4002 02:23:34,370 --> 02:23:31,380 it all boils down to to two things for 4003 02:23:37,990 --> 02:23:34,380 me Consciousness and quantum mechanics 4004 02:23:40,550 --> 02:23:38,000 or quantum physics for me 4005 02:23:42,230 --> 02:23:40,560 Newtonian physics break down when you 4006 02:23:44,929 --> 02:23:42,240 start looking at things with the quantum 4007 02:23:47,570 --> 02:23:44,939 level there's a you need a new science 4008 02:23:50,870 --> 02:23:47,580 to understand because things go from 4009 02:23:53,030 --> 02:23:50,880 being just potential energy and somehow 4010 02:23:55,969 --> 02:23:53,040 through an observer or a conscious 4011 02:23:58,370 --> 02:23:55,979 thought they become matter and billiard 4012 02:24:00,469 --> 02:23:58,380 ball physics and gravity as we know it 4013 02:24:02,870 --> 02:24:00,479 does not even come close to explaining 4014 02:24:04,790 --> 02:24:02,880 that we need a different yardstick to be 4015 02:24:07,670 --> 02:24:04,800 able to measure this type of stuff 4016 02:24:10,150 --> 02:24:07,680 yeah some element is there and then it's 4017 02:24:13,610 --> 02:24:10,160 not there like how can it exist and not 4018 02:24:16,370 --> 02:24:13,620 existence where it's in multiple places 4019 02:24:18,830 --> 02:24:16,380 but not multiple things it's the same 4020 02:24:21,349 --> 02:24:18,840 thing yeah just potentially in different 4021 02:24:23,330 --> 02:24:21,359 spots or quantum entanglement like 4022 02:24:25,610 --> 02:24:23,340 you're right Marquis quantum mechanics 4023 02:24:28,429 --> 02:24:25,620 quantum physics is the only way we're 4024 02:24:30,590 --> 02:24:28,439 gonna start at least mathematically we 4025 02:24:32,450 --> 02:24:30,600 see that it might be plausible then we 4026 02:24:34,370 --> 02:24:32,460 really use our best brains to try to say 4027 02:24:37,490 --> 02:24:34,380 well what does that mean what is now 4028 02:24:39,530 --> 02:24:37,500 possible as a result right but I think 4029 02:24:41,210 --> 02:24:39,540 it is a yeah it's bigger than we're 4030 02:24:44,510 --> 02:24:41,220 going to be able to digest at least at 4031 02:24:46,190 --> 02:24:44,520 this point in our advancement 4032 02:24:48,349 --> 02:24:46,200 so the answer is that there is no answer 4033 02:24:51,410 --> 02:24:48,359 and we're never going to find that 4034 02:24:52,910 --> 02:24:51,420 but we again I I think we I like how we 4035 02:24:54,290 --> 02:24:52,920 all have kind of unified at least in 4036 02:24:56,389 --> 02:24:54,300 that aspect because remember when we 4037 02:24:58,910 --> 02:24:56,399 first met you know what my perspective 4038 02:25:00,230 --> 02:24:58,920 is I told you I don't believe that now I 4039 02:25:01,969 --> 02:25:00,240 totally don't believe that now I think 4040 02:25:04,910 --> 02:25:01,979 it's it's again it's much deeper much 4041 02:25:07,550 --> 02:25:04,920 more more it's much richer than what I 4042 02:25:09,349 --> 02:25:07,560 thought it was at first and I think it 4043 02:25:10,969 --> 02:25:09,359 lies in just like we just talked about 4044 02:25:13,969 --> 02:25:10,979 quantum mechanics quantum physics 4045 02:25:15,110 --> 02:25:13,979 Consciousness it's all there yeah so 4046 02:25:17,389 --> 02:25:15,120 when it comes to the people that you've 4047 02:25:19,429 --> 02:25:17,399 talked to I can't even ask you who the 4048 02:25:21,050 --> 02:25:19,439 most you know the most interesting one 4049 02:25:22,670 --> 02:25:21,060 was because I'm sure there were so many 4050 02:25:25,730 --> 02:25:22,680 that it's hard for you to pin down which 4051 02:25:27,349 --> 02:25:25,740 ones but moving forward who are the next 4052 02:25:28,670 --> 02:25:27,359 guests that you have coming up for your 4053 02:25:30,110 --> 02:25:28,680 podcast that people should be looking 4054 02:25:32,389 --> 02:25:30,120 forward to 4055 02:25:34,849 --> 02:25:32,399 I'll let Louise handle that yeah yeah 4056 02:25:38,330 --> 02:25:34,859 it's we've been so busy the last week 4057 02:25:40,730 --> 02:25:38,340 literally in the last week we've had 15 4058 02:25:44,270 --> 02:25:40,740 people come together in one way shape or 4059 02:25:47,210 --> 02:25:44,280 form so some of them we they're they're 4060 02:25:48,950 --> 02:25:47,220 on a project it's about to end and they 4061 02:25:50,510 --> 02:25:48,960 want to come talk about it those people 4062 02:25:52,309 --> 02:25:50,520 I can't reveal 4063 02:25:54,290 --> 02:25:52,319 a couple people are going to be 4064 02:25:56,630 --> 02:25:54,300 testifying at the UFO Congress 4065 02:25:58,550 --> 02:25:56,640 convention hearings and I think that's 4066 02:26:00,469 --> 02:25:58,560 amazing because everybody's speculating 4067 02:26:02,150 --> 02:26:00,479 including us earlier but what these 4068 02:26:03,889 --> 02:26:02,160 reports mean we're going to talk to 4069 02:26:05,990 --> 02:26:03,899 somebody who's actually going to testify 4070 02:26:08,030 --> 02:26:06,000 before Congress we're going to ask them 4071 02:26:09,410 --> 02:26:08,040 what they think it means again I can't 4072 02:26:11,570 --> 02:26:09,420 bring that up but in terms of names we 4073 02:26:12,770 --> 02:26:11,580 can bring up I mean this Sunday we've 4074 02:26:15,230 --> 02:26:12,780 got John Burroughs we mentioned 4075 02:26:18,110 --> 02:26:15,240 rendersham Forest uh we have a director 4076 02:26:20,450 --> 02:26:18,120 of mufon State University uh Mindy 4077 02:26:22,910 --> 02:26:20,460 toddfest she's a uh she trains new 4078 02:26:24,830 --> 02:26:22,920 investigators and in fact the the TV 4079 02:26:27,410 --> 02:26:24,840 program Ancient Aliens has a new episode 4080 02:26:29,450 --> 02:26:27,420 on February 10th and we're interviewing 4081 02:26:32,270 --> 02:26:29,460 her on the 12th two days later and that 4082 02:26:34,010 --> 02:26:32,280 episode is dedicated to mufon the actual 4083 02:26:36,469 --> 02:26:34,020 Ancient Aliens episode is going to talk 4084 02:26:37,790 --> 02:26:36,479 about mufon and so for anybody who maybe 4085 02:26:39,410 --> 02:26:37,800 didn't know much about mufon we 4086 02:26:41,630 --> 02:26:39,420 mentioned them earlier that's a great 4087 02:26:43,250 --> 02:26:41,640 opportunity to check that out uh and 4088 02:26:46,250 --> 02:26:43,260 then it's just bangers it's Richard 4089 02:26:47,870 --> 02:26:46,260 Dolan uh it's Gary Nolan it's Steve 4090 02:26:52,210 --> 02:26:47,880 Bassett 4091 02:26:55,670 --> 02:26:54,590 there's so many there's so many I mean 4092 02:26:57,650 --> 02:26:55,680 last year we thought it would be pretty 4093 02:27:01,190 --> 02:26:57,660 tough because we had the likes of George 4094 02:27:05,750 --> 02:27:01,200 Knapp Leslie Kane Jim semivan Ross 4095 02:27:08,990 --> 02:27:05,760 coltard Avi Loeb uh James Fox who else 4096 02:27:11,330 --> 02:27:09,000 on and on and on valet 4097 02:27:13,070 --> 02:27:11,340 um Calvin Parker was great I love that 4098 02:27:14,870 --> 02:27:13,080 Calvin Parker like it was like the who's 4099 02:27:17,750 --> 02:27:14,880 who of ufology and we're like how are we 4100 02:27:19,370 --> 02:27:17,760 going to one-up this and uh yeah this 4101 02:27:21,590 --> 02:27:19,380 year started off with a bang too you 4102 02:27:23,809 --> 02:27:21,600 know and now we're getting more into the 4103 02:27:25,130 --> 02:27:23,819 sides of like not being scared to 4104 02:27:27,650 --> 02:27:25,140 interview somebody like Reverend Michael 4105 02:27:30,349 --> 02:27:27,660 Carter here's a man of God who believes 4106 02:27:32,090 --> 02:27:30,359 in Aliens who had an experience I want 4107 02:27:33,950 --> 02:27:32,100 to get his perspective on things and 4108 02:27:36,290 --> 02:27:33,960 yeah we're not so scared that somebody 4109 02:27:37,990 --> 02:27:36,300 might send us an email saying I didn't 4110 02:27:40,550 --> 02:27:38,000 like that or why did you talk about 4111 02:27:42,710 --> 02:27:40,560 religion or spirituality we're okay with 4112 02:27:45,110 --> 02:27:42,720 that in fact he even said that to us 4113 02:27:46,910 --> 02:27:45,120 that you know if if you're getting 4114 02:27:48,410 --> 02:27:46,920 people outside their shell you're doing 4115 02:27:50,630 --> 02:27:48,420 what you're supposed to be doing it's 4116 02:27:52,610 --> 02:27:50,640 not your job to just cater what the 4117 02:27:54,469 --> 02:27:52,620 comfortable topics are it's to get 4118 02:27:56,450 --> 02:27:54,479 people thinking well I didn't think 4119 02:27:58,610 --> 02:27:56,460 about that before but you know maybe 4120 02:28:00,770 --> 02:27:58,620 there's something to that and if we can 4121 02:28:02,450 --> 02:28:00,780 open a few mines and make people a 4122 02:28:05,929 --> 02:28:02,460 little less judgmental when it comes to 4123 02:28:07,250 --> 02:28:05,939 this phenomenon we're doing our job so 4124 02:28:08,990 --> 02:28:07,260 um yeah this year's a big year there's 4125 02:28:11,510 --> 02:28:09,000 more names I can't mention that I can I 4126 02:28:14,469 --> 02:28:11,520 gave you a few there I mean Ryan Graves 4127 02:28:16,969 --> 02:28:14,479 is coming on as well yeah oh man 4128 02:28:18,469 --> 02:28:16,979 everyone is if you call them bangers 4129 02:28:19,910 --> 02:28:18,479 when I think about it I'm like oh I want 4130 02:28:21,710 --> 02:28:19,920 to talk oh I want to oh I want to know I 4131 02:28:24,830 --> 02:28:21,720 want and it's every single one of them 4132 02:28:26,990 --> 02:28:24,840 is is the one that I want to know I want 4133 02:28:29,270 --> 02:28:27,000 to talk to like you're doing the thing 4134 02:28:30,650 --> 02:28:29,280 man you guys are doing a big thing if 4135 02:28:32,809 --> 02:28:30,660 there's something when you think about 4136 02:28:34,730 --> 02:28:32,819 somebody in any field right they have 4137 02:28:36,530 --> 02:28:34,740 Ambitions all we what we all want to do 4138 02:28:39,530 --> 02:28:36,540 this thing we all want to be like this 4139 02:28:43,429 --> 02:28:39,540 person you're doing the thing that every 4140 02:28:45,469 --> 02:28:43,439 one of us wishes we could do oh man yeah 4141 02:28:47,090 --> 02:28:45,479 I appreciate that and to you know what 4142 02:28:49,190 --> 02:28:47,100 we're nothing special we're regular 4143 02:28:51,110 --> 02:28:49,200 dudes we started this as a hobby the 4144 02:28:52,730 --> 02:28:51,120 only you know bit of advice I will give 4145 02:28:54,590 --> 02:28:52,740 you or anybody else who wants to get in 4146 02:28:57,889 --> 02:28:54,600 this field is 4147 02:28:59,510 --> 02:28:57,899 just be enthusiastic work at it it 4148 02:29:01,670 --> 02:28:59,520 doesn't happen by itself and stay 4149 02:29:04,610 --> 02:29:01,680 persistent Jason could have quit after 4150 02:29:06,670 --> 02:29:04,620 20 episodes when it didn't blow up but 4151 02:29:10,730 --> 02:29:06,680 he didn't he kept going we get together 4152 02:29:13,490 --> 02:29:10,740 the second year of our show was 600 4153 02:29:16,370 --> 02:29:13,500 percent while the first year was yeah 4154 02:29:18,230 --> 02:29:16,380 actual data and I learned this I used to 4155 02:29:20,690 --> 02:29:18,240 be a sales trainer teaching commissioned 4156 02:29:22,670 --> 02:29:20,700 people how to sell more product and I 4157 02:29:25,190 --> 02:29:22,680 worked with a Chinese man and he said 4158 02:29:27,170 --> 02:29:25,200 you know sales and dealing with clients 4159 02:29:29,389 --> 02:29:27,180 and building a sort of a database is 4160 02:29:31,429 --> 02:29:29,399 like growing bamboo you plant the seed 4161 02:29:33,790 --> 02:29:31,439 in the ground you water it you give it 4162 02:29:36,950 --> 02:29:33,800 sunlight a year goes by nothing happens 4163 02:29:39,469 --> 02:29:36,960 next year you water it you sunlight give 4164 02:29:41,809 --> 02:29:39,479 it food nothing happens you do that for 4165 02:29:43,610 --> 02:29:41,819 three years and you get zero and then on 4166 02:29:46,370 --> 02:29:43,620 the fourth year you get an eight foot 4167 02:29:47,870 --> 02:29:46,380 stock so all those three years you 4168 02:29:50,330 --> 02:29:47,880 thought nothing was happening you were 4169 02:29:51,950 --> 02:29:50,340 growing roots and then it blew up when 4170 02:29:54,349 --> 02:29:51,960 you least expected now if you'd stop 4171 02:29:56,330 --> 02:29:54,359 watering it at any point in time you'd 4172 02:29:58,190 --> 02:29:56,340 never would have got that that root the 4173 02:30:01,190 --> 02:29:58,200 shoot you wouldn't have got the the 4174 02:30:03,170 --> 02:30:01,200 prize so just stay at it do it because 4175 02:30:05,570 --> 02:30:03,180 you like it don't do it because you want 4176 02:30:07,309 --> 02:30:05,580 to change the world or the narrative or 4177 02:30:09,889 --> 02:30:07,319 you really want to get your idea on what 4178 02:30:11,270 --> 02:30:09,899 this thing is out there stay humble you 4179 02:30:13,429 --> 02:30:11,280 know a lot of people shoot themselves in 4180 02:30:15,429 --> 02:30:13,439 the head because they go out and try to 4181 02:30:18,410 --> 02:30:15,439 be the next messiah in the UFO world 4182 02:30:20,870 --> 02:30:18,420 this this group will chew you to pieces 4183 02:30:23,389 --> 02:30:20,880 go look at UFO Twitter and find out for 4184 02:30:25,849 --> 02:30:23,399 yourself the best they have the biggest 4185 02:30:29,530 --> 02:30:25,859 and best names that we talk to get 4186 02:30:31,910 --> 02:30:29,540 trolled to death out there it sucks 4187 02:30:33,170 --> 02:30:31,920 even us like everybody that we've 4188 02:30:35,870 --> 02:30:33,180 interviewed we're still being called 4189 02:30:38,030 --> 02:30:35,880 idiots you know on on Twitter and 4190 02:30:40,550 --> 02:30:38,040 Facebook or whatever like that's just 4191 02:30:42,950 --> 02:30:40,560 the nature of the game but if if you're 4192 02:30:45,410 --> 02:30:42,960 like wanting to get out there even as an 4193 02:30:47,450 --> 02:30:45,420 investigator or somebody has always been 4194 02:30:50,510 --> 02:30:47,460 passionate about this subject never done 4195 02:30:52,309 --> 02:30:50,520 anything get off the couch and move you 4196 02:30:54,110 --> 02:30:52,319 know there's organizations you can join 4197 02:30:55,670 --> 02:30:54,120 like like move on which we've talked 4198 02:30:57,290 --> 02:30:55,680 about today 4199 02:30:59,210 --> 02:30:57,300 um you know there's or you could become 4200 02:31:01,790 --> 02:30:59,220 a private investigator but even if you 4201 02:31:03,889 --> 02:31:01,800 listen to you know everybody we've had 4202 02:31:06,469 --> 02:31:03,899 all the investigators most of them just 4203 02:31:08,929 --> 02:31:06,479 started to sing you know I want to get 4204 02:31:11,469 --> 02:31:08,939 active I want to get moving and that's 4205 02:31:14,450 --> 02:31:11,479 how you're going to become 4206 02:31:16,130 --> 02:31:14,460 successful is is big or you know in this 4207 02:31:18,650 --> 02:31:16,140 case success is really how you measure 4208 02:31:20,809 --> 02:31:18,660 it and what what you know what is 4209 02:31:22,730 --> 02:31:20,819 success to you but I think like becoming 4210 02:31:24,710 --> 02:31:22,740 an investigator having some cases like 4211 02:31:26,690 --> 02:31:24,720 man that feels good you're actually 4212 02:31:29,030 --> 02:31:26,700 contributing now to the community you're 4213 02:31:30,950 --> 02:31:29,040 you feel like you're part of it 4214 02:31:32,570 --> 02:31:30,960 um and you don't have to you know 4215 02:31:34,130 --> 02:31:32,580 necessarily start a podcast because I 4216 02:31:37,070 --> 02:31:34,140 mean there's I think they said there's 4217 02:31:39,050 --> 02:31:37,080 over a million podcasts on Spotify that 4218 02:31:42,110 --> 02:31:39,060 have only one episode 4219 02:31:43,969 --> 02:31:42,120 over a million yeah so a lot of podcasts 4220 02:31:46,070 --> 02:31:43,979 are and they say that if you don't get 4221 02:31:48,410 --> 02:31:46,080 past the seventh episode the chances are 4222 02:31:50,750 --> 02:31:48,420 you continuing doing the podcast is very 4223 02:31:52,670 --> 02:31:50,760 slim so again past the seventh episode 4224 02:31:54,530 --> 02:31:52,680 is very important 4225 02:31:57,110 --> 02:31:54,540 um but yeah like like Louie said you 4226 02:31:59,870 --> 02:31:57,120 just stick to your guns and uh you know 4227 02:32:01,990 --> 02:31:59,880 keep keep that hunger there regardless 4228 02:32:04,910 --> 02:32:02,000 of whether you become an investigator or 4229 02:32:06,650 --> 02:32:04,920 podcaster or a journalist or whatever it 4230 02:32:09,590 --> 02:32:06,660 is that you want in this field 4231 02:32:11,389 --> 02:32:09,600 stay hungry you know and pursue it and 4232 02:32:13,190 --> 02:32:11,399 and don't stop people are going to say 4233 02:32:15,650 --> 02:32:13,200 some stupid stuff to you don't don't pay 4234 02:32:17,090 --> 02:32:15,660 attention to it just keep going and do 4235 02:32:19,429 --> 02:32:17,100 it because you love it like we could 4236 02:32:22,429 --> 02:32:19,439 have monetized eight months ago we chose 4237 02:32:25,370 --> 02:32:22,439 not to you know I mean we don't have a a 4238 02:32:27,110 --> 02:32:25,380 genre with billions of clicks like if 4239 02:32:28,969 --> 02:32:27,120 you make a YouTube channel and do makeup 4240 02:32:31,130 --> 02:32:28,979 reviews you will make ten thousand 4241 02:32:33,349 --> 02:32:31,140 dollars a month in a year if you stay at 4242 02:32:35,570 --> 02:32:33,359 it right I see the ones my wife watches 4243 02:32:39,170 --> 02:32:35,580 these people have professional quality 4244 02:32:40,610 --> 02:32:39,180 stuff so we made the decision that we 4245 02:32:42,110 --> 02:32:40,620 are one of the few episodes that offer 4246 02:32:44,150 --> 02:32:42,120 commercial free content now it may not 4247 02:32:46,010 --> 02:32:44,160 be like that forever at some point the 4248 02:32:47,570 --> 02:32:46,020 expense of doing this that may be the 4249 02:32:49,790 --> 02:32:47,580 only way we can continue doing it but 4250 02:32:51,889 --> 02:32:49,800 for now I don't know of any other show 4251 02:32:54,050 --> 02:32:51,899 that has interviewed the people at the 4252 02:32:56,330 --> 02:32:54,060 level that we have right and doesn't 4253 02:32:58,010 --> 02:32:56,340 charge for it we don't have patreon 4254 02:32:59,870 --> 02:32:58,020 there's no paywall there's no 4255 02:33:02,210 --> 02:32:59,880 subscription there's no YouTube ads 4256 02:33:03,830 --> 02:33:02,220 nothing we don't even do the Spotify 4257 02:33:05,690 --> 02:33:03,840 voice kind of makes it sound like we're 4258 02:33:07,070 --> 02:33:05,700 missing out on something like we've 4259 02:33:09,050 --> 02:33:07,080 probably left a bunch of money on the 4260 02:33:11,630 --> 02:33:09,060 table but it's because we want to show 4261 02:33:13,670 --> 02:33:11,640 that we're coming from a genuine care 4262 02:33:15,110 --> 02:33:13,680 about this topic we want to get these 4263 02:33:17,570 --> 02:33:15,120 people's stories out we don't interview 4264 02:33:20,389 --> 02:33:17,580 anybody we don't like there's no idiots 4265 02:33:22,370 --> 02:33:20,399 on our show we filter the idiots out and 4266 02:33:24,770 --> 02:33:22,380 we just have a great conversation it's a 4267 02:33:26,750 --> 02:33:24,780 virtual living room we're Stoke because 4268 02:33:28,969 --> 02:33:26,760 we were fans of these people for years 4269 02:33:31,670 --> 02:33:28,979 and now it's like oh my God you're 4270 02:33:33,050 --> 02:33:31,680 stolen like that's crazy we get to talk 4271 02:33:35,090 --> 02:33:33,060 with him and you know he's done a 4272 02:33:38,030 --> 02:33:35,100 million shows but we haven't talked with 4273 02:33:40,490 --> 02:33:38,040 them so this is our uh it's our journey 4274 02:33:42,650 --> 02:33:40,500 as well well as guys that were just 4275 02:33:44,990 --> 02:33:42,660 enthusiasts that started taking a little 4276 02:33:47,630 --> 02:33:45,000 bit seriously and look what what can 4277 02:33:49,969 --> 02:33:47,640 happen I mean we're on episode 119 I 4278 02:33:51,830 --> 02:33:49,979 believe yeah um and yeah we're booked 4279 02:33:54,710 --> 02:33:51,840 all the way through to like 140 at this 4280 02:33:57,170 --> 02:33:54,720 point damn near so it's crazy once it 4281 02:33:58,730 --> 02:33:57,180 goes It goes and then you better be you 4282 02:34:00,830 --> 02:33:58,740 better be ready because you're either in 4283 02:34:02,630 --> 02:34:00,840 or you're out at that point 4284 02:34:04,490 --> 02:34:02,640 yeah and be the change that you want to 4285 02:34:06,710 --> 02:34:04,500 see too right within the community of 4286 02:34:08,870 --> 02:34:06,720 uaps and UFOs I mean there's so many 4287 02:34:11,330 --> 02:34:08,880 people that you know the you know the 4288 02:34:12,889 --> 02:34:11,340 host will will voice their opinions and 4289 02:34:14,690 --> 02:34:12,899 sometimes it's not for the you know 4290 02:34:16,309 --> 02:34:14,700 betterment of their their guests like 4291 02:34:17,750 --> 02:34:16,319 they're grilling their guests and it's 4292 02:34:19,490 --> 02:34:17,760 not good 4293 02:34:21,469 --> 02:34:19,500 um for us was really important that we 4294 02:34:23,809 --> 02:34:21,479 we don't do that we let we ask a 4295 02:34:25,190 --> 02:34:23,819 question we let the guests talk and it's 4296 02:34:27,469 --> 02:34:25,200 about the guests you know it's it's 4297 02:34:30,469 --> 02:34:27,479 about an excellent conversationalists 4298 02:34:32,210 --> 02:34:30,479 yeah well we tried yeah it's bizarre no 4299 02:34:33,790 --> 02:34:32,220 I've got a lot of fun if you're not 4300 02:34:36,050 --> 02:34:33,800 getting them laughing and joking around 4301 02:34:37,730 --> 02:34:36,060 sometimes we'll do a five minute warm-up 4302 02:34:39,770 --> 02:34:37,740 with these people just uh like this is 4303 02:34:41,990 --> 02:34:39,780 who we are nice to meet you if they're 4304 02:34:44,210 --> 02:34:42,000 still very rigid and giving us one word 4305 02:34:46,550 --> 02:34:44,220 answers we don't start the show get to 4306 02:34:47,990 --> 02:34:46,560 get them laughing get them in their Zone 4307 02:34:50,030 --> 02:34:48,000 then they're gonna give us good content 4308 02:34:52,190 --> 02:34:50,040 if if it's they're half asleep still 4309 02:34:53,750 --> 02:34:52,200 because it's Sunday at 8 A.M we're gonna 4310 02:34:55,490 --> 02:34:53,760 wait 10 minutes and we're gonna ask them 4311 02:34:57,110 --> 02:34:55,500 what are you doing later today whose 4312 02:35:00,230 --> 02:34:57,120 show were you on last whatever we need 4313 02:35:02,030 --> 02:35:00,240 to talk about we will until they get to 4314 02:35:04,730 --> 02:35:02,040 their usual elf because that's what our 4315 02:35:07,389 --> 02:35:04,740 viewers want so we we put in the work 4316 02:35:09,530 --> 02:35:07,399 and uh massage these people 4317 02:35:11,510 --> 02:35:09,540 in some cases you know we have a good 4318 02:35:13,250 --> 02:35:11,520 friend a good Facebook friend Chris 4319 02:35:14,870 --> 02:35:13,260 Grant from Scotland shout out to our 4320 02:35:16,790 --> 02:35:14,880 buddy I'm pretty sure he's all of our 4321 02:35:19,370 --> 02:35:16,800 friends but yeah basically he'll say 4322 02:35:21,469 --> 02:35:19,380 sometimes you know you you so and so is 4323 02:35:23,450 --> 02:35:21,479 coming on your show oh man put a key in 4324 02:35:25,429 --> 02:35:23,460 his back and let him go and we're kind 4325 02:35:27,889 --> 02:35:25,439 of the same way you wind us up and then 4326 02:35:29,570 --> 02:35:27,899 we will just do our thing and most of 4327 02:35:31,610 --> 02:35:29,580 our guests will too they love it just as 4328 02:35:33,530 --> 02:35:31,620 much as we do and that's what you're 4329 02:35:35,750 --> 02:35:33,540 picking up on when you say wow that was 4330 02:35:38,570 --> 02:35:35,760 a great episode it's because we were all 4331 02:35:40,250 --> 02:35:38,580 we created an energy and then we just 4332 02:35:42,469 --> 02:35:40,260 tossed that beach ball back and forth 4333 02:35:44,330 --> 02:35:42,479 for an hour yeah a lot of times I feel 4334 02:35:46,429 --> 02:35:44,340 like a lot of this is just general with 4335 02:35:49,130 --> 02:35:46,439 anything that people do on their own 4336 02:35:50,630 --> 02:35:49,140 people tend to not truly people that are 4337 02:35:52,550 --> 02:35:50,640 not involved in the thing that you're 4338 02:35:54,110 --> 02:35:52,560 producing whatever it may be they don't 4339 02:35:55,490 --> 02:35:54,120 fully understand what it takes to do it 4340 02:35:58,070 --> 02:35:55,500 and they don't absolutely appreciate 4341 02:36:00,349 --> 02:35:58,080 like how well you're doing that thing 4342 02:36:02,750 --> 02:36:00,359 you have to watch somebody who's a who's 4343 02:36:04,790 --> 02:36:02,760 got a terrible show and then watch your 4344 02:36:06,230 --> 02:36:04,800 show and then you'll be like wait a 4345 02:36:08,210 --> 02:36:06,240 minute why are there worlds of 4346 02:36:11,389 --> 02:36:08,220 differences here we're talking I've seen 4347 02:36:12,590 --> 02:36:11,399 some shows where I liked them before and 4348 02:36:14,510 --> 02:36:12,600 then I hear your show and I'm like wait 4349 02:36:16,670 --> 02:36:14,520 a minute why have I been wasting my time 4350 02:36:18,770 --> 02:36:16,680 on this show and it's just for the 4351 02:36:21,290 --> 02:36:18,780 entertainment we're just like yeah it's 4352 02:36:22,790 --> 02:36:21,300 again it's not I'm not the one who I 4353 02:36:24,650 --> 02:36:22,800 don't do anything by watching your show 4354 02:36:27,349 --> 02:36:24,660 it's just I'm just being entertained but 4355 02:36:28,670 --> 02:36:27,359 I'm also being informed and that to me 4356 02:36:29,750 --> 02:36:28,680 is the most important thing is like I 4357 02:36:31,670 --> 02:36:29,760 want to know more I want to understand 4358 02:36:34,730 --> 02:36:31,680 more I want to hear what these people 4359 02:36:38,270 --> 02:36:34,740 have to say there's like a there's like 4360 02:36:40,370 --> 02:36:38,280 a a learning by osmosis that process 4361 02:36:43,429 --> 02:36:40,380 that I go through by consuming the right 4362 02:36:45,469 --> 02:36:43,439 content is much more effective for my 4363 02:36:48,110 --> 02:36:45,479 growth personally and of course with 4364 02:36:49,670 --> 02:36:48,120 this this endeavor then it would be just 4365 02:36:52,309 --> 02:36:49,680 to be entertained by some other 4366 02:36:55,010 --> 02:36:52,319 podcaster who's just like putting a 4367 02:36:57,290 --> 02:36:55,020 bunch of random non-verifiable like kind 4368 02:36:59,030 --> 02:36:57,300 of not tangible just just pure 4369 02:37:00,590 --> 02:36:59,040 entertainment value 4370 02:37:02,330 --> 02:37:00,600 um it's nice to be entertained but it's 4371 02:37:04,370 --> 02:37:02,340 much more important to to have something 4372 02:37:06,530 --> 02:37:04,380 help you with your personal growth and 4373 02:37:09,349 --> 02:37:06,540 that's what I think your channel does so 4374 02:37:10,969 --> 02:37:09,359 where can people who have that desire to 4375 02:37:12,650 --> 02:37:10,979 want to grow to want to understand that 4376 02:37:13,849 --> 02:37:12,660 be really engaged with the content that 4377 02:37:15,650 --> 02:37:13,859 they're putting out not just be 4378 02:37:17,270 --> 02:37:15,660 entertained but also be entertained 4379 02:37:19,849 --> 02:37:17,280 where can they find you 4380 02:37:21,950 --> 02:37:19,859 so we are everywhere if you go on Google 4381 02:37:24,050 --> 02:37:21,960 and search UAP studies podcasts there's 4382 02:37:27,410 --> 02:37:24,060 six pages of stuff comes up go to 4383 02:37:29,290 --> 02:37:27,420 YouTube UAP studies podcast Spotify UAP 4384 02:37:31,490 --> 02:37:29,300 studies podcast 4385 02:37:34,010 --> 02:37:31,500 uapstaddiespodcast.com same on Apple 4386 02:37:35,330 --> 02:37:34,020 podcast essentially any media property 4387 02:37:37,610 --> 02:37:35,340 out there if you search for us you'll 4388 02:37:39,410 --> 02:37:37,620 find us uh feel free to message us we 4389 02:37:41,510 --> 02:37:39,420 answer everybody's message email 4390 02:37:44,090 --> 02:37:41,520 absolutely go to our website you can hit 4391 02:37:46,849 --> 02:37:44,100 contact us share your stories guest 4392 02:37:48,590 --> 02:37:46,859 requests just saying hi we've had people 4393 02:37:50,990 --> 02:37:48,600 share intimate things and say Hey you 4394 02:37:52,849 --> 02:37:51,000 covered this topic it was you know I 4395 02:37:54,770 --> 02:37:52,859 almost cried a little but I feel better 4396 02:37:56,750 --> 02:37:54,780 now that I watched it we got some real 4397 02:37:59,690 --> 02:37:56,760 heartfelt stuff and that's what gets us 4398 02:38:01,969 --> 02:37:59,700 going and we promise to be the best 4399 02:38:04,670 --> 02:38:01,979 moral compass we can we will never put 4400 02:38:07,309 --> 02:38:04,680 anybody on that's just spewing trash or 4401 02:38:10,250 --> 02:38:07,319 stuff that you cannot prove we we get 4402 02:38:13,010 --> 02:38:10,260 these people to give us a story but we 4403 02:38:14,929 --> 02:38:13,020 know that story is based on facts as 4404 02:38:17,210 --> 02:38:14,939 much as everybody can confirm it is 4405 02:38:19,130 --> 02:38:17,220 nobody really knows anybody's stuff but 4406 02:38:21,710 --> 02:38:19,140 right it'll be well accepted and 4407 02:38:23,929 --> 02:38:21,720 verifiable not Johnny you know has 4408 02:38:26,330 --> 02:38:23,939 dreams and talks to aliens there's shows 4409 02:38:28,429 --> 02:38:26,340 for that we're just not that chill we 4410 02:38:30,349 --> 02:38:28,439 are science based fact-based we 4411 02:38:32,150 --> 02:38:30,359 interview military people scientists 4412 02:38:33,950 --> 02:38:32,160 people have been on television and write 4413 02:38:36,230 --> 02:38:33,960 documentaries about this phenomenon 4414 02:38:37,910 --> 02:38:36,240 people who have made it their life's 4415 02:38:39,590 --> 02:38:37,920 work and some of them who take 4416 02:38:42,889 --> 02:38:39,600 considerable risk to even talk about 4417 02:38:45,170 --> 02:38:42,899 this stuff we give them their their time 4418 02:38:46,370 --> 02:38:45,180 we give them their due respect so that's 4419 02:38:49,010 --> 02:38:46,380 what we're all about 4420 02:38:50,750 --> 02:38:49,020 fantastic I want to thank you guys both 4421 02:38:53,150 --> 02:38:50,760 for coming on to my podcast because 4422 02:38:54,710 --> 02:38:53,160 again you know this is this means a lot 4423 02:38:56,270 --> 02:38:54,720 to me this whole effort that I'm doing 4424 02:38:58,130 --> 02:38:56,280 with the podcast it means a lot to me 4425 02:38:59,809 --> 02:38:58,140 the content I put out I'm doing of 4426 02:39:01,070 --> 02:38:59,819 course the Sor thing on the weekends and 4427 02:39:03,530 --> 02:39:01,080 then I want to do more I want to do more 4428 02:39:05,929 --> 02:39:03,540 for my my podcasts and my platform as 4429 02:39:07,550 --> 02:39:05,939 well and given who you are the Giants 4430 02:39:09,889 --> 02:39:07,560 that you guys are I really appreciate 4431 02:39:11,750 --> 02:39:09,899 that I got you two Giants on my show and 4432 02:39:13,790 --> 02:39:11,760 I'm talking good looking Giants you guys 4433 02:39:15,170 --> 02:39:13,800 you're dressed Snappy look at this guy 4434 02:39:17,870 --> 02:39:15,180 look at this guy look at this look at 4435 02:39:20,150 --> 02:39:17,880 this look at this guy beautiful man look 4436 02:39:21,650 --> 02:39:20,160 at that I appreciate it and I wanna I we 4437 02:39:23,570 --> 02:39:21,660 were always welcome I look forward to 4438 02:39:25,309 --> 02:39:23,580 more conversations here 4439 02:39:27,230 --> 02:39:25,319 um on the on my podcast with you guys as 4440 02:39:28,849 --> 02:39:27,240 well so looking forward to more 4441 02:39:31,130 --> 02:39:28,859 conversation as well we love you brother 4442 02:39:33,469 --> 02:39:31,140 we encourage you we think you should go 4443 02:39:35,150 --> 02:39:33,479 uh with your show go hard with it you're 4444 02:39:36,530 --> 02:39:35,160 a bright minded guy people love you in 4445 02:39:39,530 --> 02:39:36,540 the comments I've seen you do your thing 4446 02:39:41,990 --> 02:39:39,540 on other shows be confident people like 4447 02:39:44,270 --> 02:39:42,000 you right you made it this far you have 4448 02:39:45,410 --> 02:39:44,280 your podcast before I've been holding 4449 02:39:48,349 --> 02:39:45,420 all you know it's been fun it's been 4450 02:39:49,610 --> 02:39:48,359 great yeah great host yeah you're a 4451 02:39:51,530 --> 02:39:49,620 great host thank you guys we'll come 4452 02:39:52,490 --> 02:39:51,540 back anytime you want us to man all